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Tomalicious
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
Griffin wrote: Hades should be a Gunner themed Capship with an emphasis on offensive powers such as damage and speed. Why? Because fuck you Zerks. You have 3 or so T21 ships while Gunners/FC's have 1 (2 if you wanna count Jey's Prawn).
Right... Gunner 2 workable ships Zeus Throne: Agile cap ship with great stats, inbuilt missiles, speedy Red Photon Warship: Death and destruction, great inbuilt, damagey Fleet Comm 2 workable ships Zeus Throne: Agile cap ship with great stats, inbuilt fighters, speedy Red Photon Carrier: Death everywhere, great inbuilt, damagey Berserker: Wattage: Inbuilt capacitor that completely ruins the ship for berserkers due to no inertial dampener Prawn: Incredibly hard to get a blueprint So Stabberz, really.... Fuck you zerks? a T21 gunner can outrange and spam missiles like no tomorrow and can completely obliterate a berserker And as far as FC's go, I've seen them destroy HM monks and engi's. So Zeus Throne: FC/Gunner Ares War Chariot: SD/Seer Argeiphontes Hermes: SD/Seer Hephaestus Machine: Monk/Engi Poseidon Wave: Sniper Where exactly is Berserker in the Oly Ships list? And how are FC's and Gunners more entitled to ANOTHER Oly ship when Berserkers have 0? p.s. Poseidon Wave is a sniper ship, don't even start with that shit
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Wed May 23, 2012 12:14 pm |
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Max235
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
Tomalicious wrote: Poseidon Wave is a sniper ship, don't even start with that shit Bageese is a short ranged Sniper that MF's 5 weapons and have the tank of an ada kit.
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Wed May 23, 2012 12:54 pm |
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syberian
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
PW is a sniper ship, one exception doesnt change it.
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Wed May 23, 2012 1:53 pm |
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Griffin
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
Red Photon Warship is awful. It's essentially an EFDread+ with only roughly a third of the critical hit resistance. Or let me put it this way: Gunner only has ONE high end T21 ship.
Furthermore, you obviously know little about Gunner. +10% Damage and RoF counts for just about nothing. Gunner gets only a 3.84x DPS modifier to weapons. The RPW most certainly is not "damagey". Putting out 10% more Damage and 10% more RoF on something that only does 3.84x the DPS is NOTHING. And outrange a Zerk? Oh? Just to let you know, I have to AUGMENT for range. Gunner gets NO Range bonus whatsoever. None. Unless I was using a PBF, I'd have to sacrifice 1 of 2 aug slots for range.
And please, don't get me started on Zeus Throne. Go take a look at the 10+ page topic about how much it needs a beef.
Lastly, my suggestion does include Zerks, but Hades goes to Gunners. Zerks get Cerberus because it's more appropriate.
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Wed May 23, 2012 2:14 pm |
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Blue Dwarf
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
Every post about PWave/other Berserker ships and other ships just makes me want to not do this as much. Just sayin'. In other words: Back on topic? XD
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Wed May 23, 2012 2:22 pm |
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Predator1356
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
Max235 wrote: Tomalicious wrote: Poseidon Wave is a sniper ship, don't even start with that shit Bageese is a short ranged Sniper that MF's 5 weapons and have the tank of an ada kit. Bageeses MF pos wave does like 5 damage a hit though. anyway back to Hades i honestly dont even care wht class gets the ship. this is just a great opportunity for a new uber and new content with his sick ass guards.
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Wed May 23, 2012 2:43 pm |
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Predator1356
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
the reason there isnt that many capital ships is because there doesnt need to be. the already existing capital ships have large energybank and shield bank bonuses so another one would be pointless......... unless they wanna make a t21 version of a PBF (wink wink)
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Wed May 23, 2012 7:30 pm |
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Griffin
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
I feel that the Hades Chariot I described is fairly different from the standard Capital Ship.
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Wed May 23, 2012 7:36 pm |
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Imra15
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
Hades should be definitely added as he was the brother of Hestia and Hera, and also brother of Poseidon and Zeus.
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Wed May 23, 2012 7:59 pm |
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Max235
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
This particular suggestion has to do with a Mid Tier Zerk-oriented Heavy Fighter. Not a Capital ship, Cygnus. While I do agree theres a horrendous lack of capital ships, this is not the place for it.
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Wed May 23, 2012 8:53 pm |
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Predator1356
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
i think it would make sense that hades would be a capship like his brother zeus meanwhile cerberus would be a zerk ship. and also Max235 wrote: This particular suggestion has to do with a Mid Tier Zerk-oriented Heavy Fighter. Not a Capital ship, Cygnus. While I do agree theres a horrendous lack of capital ships, this is not the place for it. mid-tier? this is supposed to be the zerk oly ship aka better then a wattage. if hades does end up being a cap ship id like to see it more like the PBF and not another sitting tank like ZT, RP, and dreads
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Wed May 23, 2012 9:04 pm |
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Max235
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
Entry, Mid, and Uber.
If a Hawk or Wattage is the entry level, what does that make a Hades or AWC?
And if the Hades or AWC is the Uber level, what is the entry level T21? A Panther?
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Wed May 23, 2012 9:12 pm |
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Predator1356
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
point taken
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Wed May 23, 2012 9:36 pm |
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Species 8472
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Re: [Content] Pretender Hades
Tomalicious wrote: Zeus Throne: FC/Gunner Ares War Chariot: SD/Seer Argeiphontes Hermes: SD/Seer I would never put my SD in an Arg Hermes .. Hephaestus Machine: Monk/Engi Poseidon Wave: Sniper + Zerk (I've seen many effective zerks on SP shouldn't you know this?)
Where exactly is Berserker in the Oly Ships list? And how are FC's and Gunners more entitled to ANOTHER Oly ship when Berserkers have 0? I agree ~ Gunners at least should not get another oly ship. p.s.
Poseidon Wave is a sniper ship, don't even start with that shit It's fine as a zerker ship as exampled by Bageese and .. Frac ? On Artemis?
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Thu May 24, 2012 2:44 pm |
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Griffin
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Re: Pretender Hades
It's already stated that Zerk would get an Oly ship as well as Gunner. The difference is that the Hades ship would go to Gunner because it's more fitting.
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