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Post [Done][Content] ID items need overhauling
Some ID stuff needs to be beefed, Darkness Warmed Over is for some reason worse than 3 shot and darkstream has 70 vis which is way more than other stream shields. Its kinda pointless to give shield 10x vis than worse shields in line and then -20% vis mod.

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Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:41 am
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Post Re: ID items needs overhaul
EDIT: Actually, it's a 3-shot, right.

So yeah, it needs beefing.

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Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:43 am
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Post Re: ID items needs overhaul
DaWO tracking is slightly worse - like 10-25% worse.
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Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:46 am
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Post Re: ID items need overhauling
The DaWO looks great for a T21 Heat Pulse.

You guys forget to notice that the size of the item tends to dictate a lot. But the DaWO has some good stats for the size.

80% the dps for 66% the size. It's also very very light. 80k or so weight vs 700k.

It looks great for a SD.


Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:00 pm
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Post Re: ID items need overhauling
Max235 wrote:
The DaWO looks great for a T21 Heat Pulse.

You guys forget to notice that the size of the item tends to dictate a lot. But the DaWO has some good stats for the size.

80% the dps for 66% the size. It's also very very light. 80k or so weight vs 700k.

It looks great for a SD.


You're joking, right? It would royally suck for SD with that kind of tracking.

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Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:02 pm
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Post Re: ID items need overhauling
Aug for tracking? It's a Pulse Gun. You don't exactly use it for pvp.


Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:05 pm
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Post Re: ID items need overhauling
That Darkstream does not look that bad. I actually like the idea of it, would work great on high vis ships where a Sleighstream would do diddly.

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Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:06 pm
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Post Re: ID items need overhauling
Both these items needs an overhaul for sure. Everything else I have ran into so far is fine tho.


Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:22 pm
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Post Re: ID items need overhauling
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Aug for tracking? It's a Pulse Gun. You don't exactly use it for pvp.


I think I know SD better than you, Church.

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Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:12 pm
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Post Re: ID items need overhauling
anilv wrote:
Max235 wrote:
Aug for tracking? It's a Pulse Gun. You don't exactly use it for pvp.


I think I know SD better than you, Church.

Out of all the examples church gives about SD im pretty sure even i know SD better then church.


Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:36 pm
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Post Re: ID items need overhauling
What I was saying, is that it's a small heat pulse, belonging to the small pulse family(contrary to big pulse family, which the PSS is a member of).

And for a small pulse, it has its advantage. So what if the tracking isn't so great. I see it as a better weapon because of the size. Thats more loot room or room for a slightly bigger shield.

It's also got great RoF. That means I can use pure damage augs or augs that focus mostly on crits or stuff, not rof.


But what the Original Poster did not say ANYTHING about, is that, is it built? Or is it a drop? If it's built, how hard is it? If it's a drop, how rare is it?

If this was a topic for those that only have it, wouldn't a support ticket be better? If it's a topic for all people, why u get mad over opinion?


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Post Re: ID items need overhauling
Tell me 1 person who uses lion breaths in PvP besides drones and funny kits.

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Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:04 pm
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Post Re: ID items need overhauling
Bastamental wrote:
Tell me 1 person who uses lion breaths in PvP besides drones and funny kits.


Tell me one SD that uses pulses in pvp whereabouts a beam can do the same job faster or better.


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Post Re: ID items need overhauling
Max235 wrote:
What I was saying, is that it's a small heat pulse, belonging to the small pulse family(contrary to big pulse family, which the PSS is a member of).

And for a small pulse, it has its advantage. So what if the tracking isn't so great. I see it as a better weapon because of the size. Thats more loot room or room for a slightly bigger shield.

It's also got great RoF. That means I can use pure damage augs or augs that focus mostly on crits or stuff, not rof.


But what the Original Poster did not say ANYTHING about, is that, is it built? Or is it a drop? If it's built, how hard is it? If it's a drop, how rare is it?

If this was a topic for those that only have it, wouldn't a support ticket be better? If it's a topic for all people, why u get mad over opinion?


It's built from bp and require dark scorch remains, bp is rather hard to get and rare. The build itself is easy once u've got bp and remains.

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Post Re: ID items need overhauling
It should be stressed that the DaWO is T21, not T20 like the 3-shot.

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