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Max235
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Sawtooths/SawX's
Reduce the effect on the laser by 50%, increase the damage by 25% to compensate.
Concussions kicked me off my drones, so I died, and it nearly killed them. Mind you this is a level 160 alt. I can't understand why ANY NEW PLAYER would try engineer if these things happen....
End result: Laser only reduces your turning by 50%, not a full 100%. Damage buffed.
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anilv
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
That makes sense; DMs at that level can't rely on tractors to get them back to their drones in an emergency.
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Bastamental
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
You're a fucking retard. I suggested removing or nerfing their lasers over 4-5 months ago, you know what response I got from YOU?
"You're a noob, there are plenty of tactics you can use to avoid this. Thats why space breaks were made. Stop making noob suggestions because you're incapable of figuring it out."
Something like that. In the end, your a idiot who likes to look smarter than people by bsing tactics or such on forums but never actually use them or even have the money to afford. Gtfo
Oh yea, /signed
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Last edited by Bastamental on Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:45 pm |
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Bacchus
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
You're* on many occasions.
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:48 pm |
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Bastamental
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
Lol, luv you mur
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:53 pm |
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Bacchus
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
Bastamental wrote: You're a fucking retard. I suggested removing or nerfing their lasers over 4-5 months ago, you know what response I got from YOU?
"You're a noob, there are plenty of tactics you can use to avoid this. Thats why space breaks were made. Stop making noob suggestions because you're incapable of figuring it out."
Something like that. In the end, your a idiot who likes to look smarter than people by bsing tactics or such on forums but never actually use them or even have the money to afford. Gtfo
Oh yea, /signed It was fine until that point. Sadface.
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:05 pm |
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Bastamental
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
I learned something today <3
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:11 pm |
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Bacchus
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
Bastamental wrote: I learned something today <3 Until next time!
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:24 pm |
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Bastamental
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
I never did extract much of those mzungu obsufasor things
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:28 pm |
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Cygnus
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
Very much agreed. If reavers can't stop you turning entirely, sawtooths definitely should not be able to.
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:32 pm |
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Visorak
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
Cygnus wrote: Very much agreed. If reavers can't stop you turning entirely, sawtooths definitely should not be able to. Logic not applicable in Star Sonata, please try again.
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:47 pm |
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Max235
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
SMW/AEM response?
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:10 pm |
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Aurora Ex Machina
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
Max235 wrote: Reduce the effect on the laser by 50%, increase the damage by 25% to compensate.
Concussions kicked me off my drones, so I died, and it nearly killed them. Mind you this is a level 160 alt. I can't understand why ANY NEW PLAYER would try engineer if these things happen....
End result: Laser only reduces your turning by 50%, not a full 100%. Damage buffed. ...Which only helps players who are playing damage resistant slow builds. Which is what your complaint really is. Sawtooth's go 75. SawtoothX's go 95. Their lasers are range 400 - 700 or so. If you're going up against them, there's plenty of solutions: OBAs, faster ship, tracking weapons, envelopes, missile spam to present decoy, tech 5 mini-warper... and so on and so forth. Hint: both have paper-thin shields. If your drones can't do the damage to them to kill a single one, you're doing it wrong. Reavers don't have 100% turn due to having 1.5++k range, fyi.
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Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:20 am |
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Cygnus
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
The problem with that reasoning is that at the level you face reavers, you have more ways of escaping or dealing with it, and you also tend to just go faster.
At the level you face saws, you don't have the speed, the shields, the tractors, or the damage to properly handle them. They are really insanely OP in a lot of situations.
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Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:57 pm |
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Aurora Ex Machina
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:43 pm
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Re: Sawtooths/SawX's
Sawtooth are level 100, Sawtooth X, level 360.
Sawtooth may be balanced to around 180-200.
For the record: Sawtooth / X's have had the same gear since at least 2007. Your ancestors fought said AI with a lot less available items, drones, ships, augs or class skills than you: more than is offset by the new SP system.
/carebears
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