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Post Re: Seer Suggestion. Remove "unseen by target" and add to str
You're using some of my suggested stat changes, why not just post in my thread about this? We're already talking about crit damage currently.

Edit: and yeah, I spent about an hour and a half thinking and typing out my suggestion only for you to take my throughts and use it in a thread of your own.

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Post Re: Seer Suggestion. Remove "unseen by target" and add to str
basta your one mean SOB

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Post Re: Seer Suggestion. Remove "unseen by target" and add to str
My bad, the main idea of the topic was the crit str when seen and unseen.

Take note, sheild regen is Griffin's idea!

Edit: Better?

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Post Re: Seer Suggestion. Remove "unseen by target" and add to str
As long as I get credit for e-peen I'm fine with it. Although I still don't seen a point in making a second thread about the same subject.

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Post Re: Seer Suggestion. Remove "unseen by target" and add to str
5% of the topic is about shield regen.......

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Post Re: Seer Suggestion. Remove "unseen by target" and add to str
Bastamental wrote:
5% of the topic is about shield regen.......

There was a topic about fixing Seer. This topic is 100% about fixing Seer.

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Post Re: Seer Suggestion. Remove "unseen by target" and add to str
You got my mind bubbling! :(

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Post Re: Remove "unseen by target" and add to strength
After considering, I realized that +3% shield is much better than 1.5% recharge.

I compared the stats to combat focus, it gets 3%

3% seems fair. Also, keep in mind we have smaller bank shields

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Post Re: Remove "unseen by target" and add to strength
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After considering, I realized that +3% shield is much better than 1.5% recharge.

I compared the stats to combat focus, it gets 3%

3% seems fair. Also, keep in mind we have smaller bank shields


You're a RECON FOCUS. you're supposed to HIT AND RUN.

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Post Re: Remove "unseen by target" and add to strength
WE AINT FAST. WE DONT FADE FAST.

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Post Re: Remove "unseen by target" and add to strength
Shield regen is better for PvE. Also, do you have a clue how massive that +60% shield bank is? Your suggested stats already beef Seer DPH by an absolutely ridiculous amount. This shield suggestion would make you 60% harder to kill on top of that, which puts Seer into the broken zone.

Edit: I just re-read your suggestion. You noted how for some reason you wanted to have the class bonuses of a Zerk or Sniper rolled up into one package that can do more DPH than both of them as well as have have the same DPS. Ugh.

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Post Re: Remove "unseen by target" and add to strength
With my setup, it would mean about 36k ish shield, doesn't seem OP to me.

Also, with my suggestion, its hard to tank when your a glass cannon, no?

Edit in response to your edit: No, the critical hit strength stays the same when hidden.

Which reminds me, there should be a 5 second timer for staying visible. Or else a seer could use a lighthouse, shoot and turn off.

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Post Re: Remove "unseen by target" and add to strength
Just because you foolishly use just one shield aug doesn't mean that it isn't broken.

Take my seer. I use a 6k bank shield, because I prefer to have plenty of speed to get into position better. If I was to use something, say, a Basil Sheath[Amp][Ext] like I have, I'd be looking at 75k shield bank.

My SNIPER has 75k shields before its res mods.


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Post Re: Remove "unseen by target" and add to strength
Get an unmodded Basil Sheath with a CaP and Conclusion without any capacitor or other items and you get 43k shields.

A Panther Seer could easily get 50k+ shields.

Anyway, I want BaG's opinion on these matters. Maybe Kles if he decides to show up sometime.

And yeah, what Church said.

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