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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
There is that Small problem of not being able to get p20 until level 500...
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SwiftDeath
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
Cygnus wrote: There is that Small problem of not being able to get p20 until level 500... how is this a prob?
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:48 pm |
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
Quote: i like this but i dont want a lvl 100 whit Bulk 2 going against Slumbers whit titans Le Derp
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:23 pm |
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
SwiftDeath wrote: i like this but i dont want a lvl 100 whit Bulk 2 going against Slumbers whit titans Thats why DD should be level locked. DD20 only at lvl 500! Then what problem do you find?
btw, who are you? All I see is a lvl 20 under your name.
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
SwiftDeath wrote: xxxx1467 wrote: Visorak wrote: Despite the noobery of this thread, I have been pushing the premise since this farce was introduced.
Ship tech should have no effect on drones. I mean , I don't mind if I need Piloting skill to use drones, but the thing is that I'm force to use tech 20 ship in order to use tech 20 Drone , I mean if I have piloting 20 but I don't have a tech 20 ship , then I can't use a tech 20 Drones? I actually have a tech 15 ship only but with T20 Skill in piloting , if the thing is only about level-lock Drones , then why I'm force to use tech 20 ship to use a tech 20 Drones? Just like weapons , I've tech 1 ship but I have like 5 in piloting , and I'm force to use a tech 5 ship in order to use tech 5 weapon? I mean sometimes we don't have the money to buy/make a good t20 ship (I am that case to be truth) but I have 20 in piloting , then am I okay to use a tech 20 Drones? ok , that would be my last question . And yes , sorry that I was stupid in previous discussion, I admit that I almost forgot everything when I was playing 2 years ago , I'm a total noob right now as things changed a lot. How about changing the 'Piloting' skill to "Piloting and Drone Equipping"? i like this but i dont want a lvl 100 whit Bulk 2 going against Slumbers whit titans First off, level lock is a good thing but not ship locking . I don't see it's possible to have someone to be only lvl 100 to use a Bulk2 to kill slumber . I wonder if it's possible for that bulk to last till that slumber's door without EE and other skills like Shielding. Let's say it'd be possible at about around 400 or may be 350+ , so if you don't like that , ok , level lock at 500 as a requirement to go from DD 16-20 , that's it . The problem here is not skill or lvl locking , it's actually ship tech locking. Imagine you can only use weapon at your same tech as your hull tech lvl? I also don't think the one with combat slaves would use anything "Lower or equal" on their ships. So what is that Drone-Ship tech locking all about? You're talking about level lock , which don't go against the theory.
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
The current system is how it is because people used to power-level with t20 titan drones at lvl 100 out of low-tech ships. C1 doesn't have the mechanics necessary to level-lock skills unless you put certain levels of a skill into a separate galaxy that has a level limit for entering (like rumble1/2/3/mumble is for piloting). So they locked it to ship hull to counteract the people that were already doing it.
Now that C2 is so close to launching, level-locking skills is possible, even if multiple levels of a skill are in the same base. It just has to be implemented and added to the to-do list by a coder.
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
a little bit retarded are we? in C2 i got W2 at about 75-80 and went to lvl on Slumbers and Cleft in a paximinus wille ok it got more resistance and a SSS, i did not have to use the SSS untill i got ambushed and it lacks alot of hull to pack some huge great gears whit so its more then posible
and above this its the part whit C2 having comen whitout any C1 gear so everything is obtained from scratch
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
SwiftDeath wrote: a little bit retarded are we? in C2 i got W2 at about 75-80 and went to lvl on Slumbers and Cleft in a paximinus wille ok it got more resistance and a SSS, i did not have to use the SSS untill i got ambushed and it lacks alot of hull to pack some huge great gears whit so its more then posible
and above this its the part whit C2 having comen whitout any C1 gear so everything is obtained from scratch Wtf are you talking about? This makes no sense.
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
Cygnus wrote: SwiftDeath wrote: a little bit retarded are we? in C2 i got W2 at about 75-80 and went to lvl on Slumbers and Cleft in a paximinus wille ok it got more resistance and a SSS, i did not have to use the SSS untill i got ambushed and it lacks alot of hull to pack some huge great gears whit so its more then posible
and above this its the part whit C2 having comen whitout any C1 gear so everything is obtained from scratch Wtf are you talking about? This makes no sense. It was a responce to Saratoga him saying u need like lvl 200-350 to kill slumbers me saying it i did in a T3 ship in C2 at lvl 75-80 whit ai base gear
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
SwiftDeath wrote: Cygnus wrote: SwiftDeath wrote: a little bit retarded are we? in C2 i got W2 at about 75-80 and went to lvl on Slumbers and Cleft in a paximinus wille ok it got more resistance and a SSS, i did not have to use the SSS untill i got ambushed and it lacks alot of hull to pack some huge great gears whit so its more then posible
and above this its the part whit C2 having comen whitout any C1 gear so everything is obtained from scratch Wtf are you talking about? This makes no sense. It was a responce to Saratoga him saying u need like lvl 200-350 to kill slumbers me saying it i did in a T3 ship in C2 at lvl 75-80 whit ai base gear I wonder if it's a lot harder during the beta , the weapon the fly used was totally different than it's now . And the differculty is back to like how C1 was like.
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
I hated it at first but I understand the reasoning.
First of all anyone who says it's too hard to level in the beginning isn't trying all the options. I used rosburst with magic attacks to 50-70ish then got in an EFF and used MMD's or fatty's or whatever til 100 then got an EFC with DWO's.
I think the purpose to to prevent a person from using t20 drones forever in a t16 ship and actually create incentive to get a new ship, but indeed no t20 drones til lvl 500 is a bit too much.
and DD isn't locked by piloting you can get dd to level 20 and drone mastery to 20 before then, enabling 6 drones dropped before 500.
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
a jedi master wrote: I hated it at first but I understand the reasoning.
First of all anyone who says it's too hard to level in the beginning isn't trying all the options. I used rosburst with magic attacks to 50-70ish then got in an EFF and used MMD's or fatty's or whatever til 100 then got an EFC with DWO's.
I think the purpose to to prevent a person from using t20 drones forever in a t16 ship and actually create incentive to get a new ship, but indeed no t20 drones til lvl 500 is a bit too much.
and DD isn't locked by piloting you can get dd to level 20 and drone mastery to 20 before then, enabling 6 drones dropped before 500. One: If you prefer to use a capshit over a freighter for DM, there is a bigger problem.
If the suggestion (that DD be level locked) goes in, a t16 ship laying t20 drones would have to be a high enough level to get DD20, and if that level is at all in line with other t20 skills, you would be around 500-550. Not 200 like it was before with the EFFs dropping titans.
DD isn't locked to piloting. But drones are. You need to get level 500 to get piloting 20 to get a t20 ship to lay t20 drones. You see that?
Level 500 Piloting 20 T20 ship T20 drones
All we want is to cut out the two in the middle to get lvl 500-550 = t20 drones.
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
Leveled from 100 to 250 in 3 hours in an efc... Anyways the only t20 drone not requiring drone mastery that comes to mind] is the Titan drone and since it's been nerfed anyways I dont see why not usable on lower tech ships, so I agree
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Re: Drones Equipping Shouldn't be limited by ship level
Wait you want to use a lower than t20 ship at level 500? Like an orca? Idk there's not much incentive to upgrade if you can use armada infernos in an orca
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