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[Content] Zeus Throne
Ok so people have gone on about the Zeus Throne needing a beef, I for one don't know why admins havn't done it either. But lets compare the Olympus ships to the other Olympus Ships.
Ares War Chariot - ive seen them in oly kicking some serious ass 4 augs, great resists, sufficient hull for the more advanced sds, seers and hell theres even a sniper (neat ship)
Poseidon Wave - Ive seen these also in oly kicking some serious ass. 3 aug slot. great resists, sufficient hull for the sniper class (also neat ship)
Heph Machine - This ship imo is the best oly ship, solo heals pretty much everythng except probably hermes, 4 aug slots . great resists. and sufficient hull for the shm or DM class
Zeus Throne - What is there to say about this. 2 aug slots, great resists, 2/3rds the bonus of a EFDN in shield and energy, (not a neat ship, but itf you do what the playerbase wants it will be more used right now its a trophy for the rich:) ) I havn't seen them in oly very much and they are way underpowered people say u need to up the specials and blah blah. But for a Zeus Throne (most expensive Olympus ship to build and it looks hella sexy) imo 2 things 700% shield and energy bonus and that 3rd aug slot. sorry to say but whoeve thought of 2 aug slotted ZT current stats are wacko FIX IT!
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Re: Zeus Throne
coffee wrote: Ok so people have gone on about the Zeus Throne needing a beef, I for one don't know why admins havn't done it either. But lets compare the Olympus ships to the other Olympus Ships.
Ares War Chariot - ive seen them in oly kicking some serious ass
Poseidon Wave - Ive seen these also in oly kicking some serious ass!
Heph Machine - This ship imo is the best oly ship, solo heals pretty much everythng except probably hermes
Zeus Throne - What is there to say about this. I havn't seen them in oly very much and they are way underpowered people say u need to up the specials and blah blah. But for a Zeus Throne (most expensive Olympus ship to build and it looks hella sexy) imo 2 things 700% shield and energy bonus and that 3rd aug slot. sorry to say but whoeve thought of 2 aug slotted ZT current stats are wacko FIX IT! Oh yeah, and make it capship hull type too.
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Re: Zeus Throne
It doesn't help that there are T21 capital ship alternatives from Red Photon.
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Re: Zeus Throne
Exactly enkelin really the ZT should be better than the RP capital ship after all most expensive ship in game curently
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:00 pm |
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Re: Zeus Throne
coffee wrote: Exactly enkelin really the ZT should be better than the RP capital ship after all most expensive ship in game curently *cough* ZT+ *cough*
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Re: Zeus Throne
Technically the RP Warship is more expensive because a ZT+ could drop!
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Re: Zeus Throne
The ship certainly needs some changes. Add in T21 FC Auras, then give people a reason to use this over a Red Photon Carrier. One thing you can start by changing, is the Jupiter's Call.
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Re: Zeus Throne
the zeus throne is perfectly awesome and balanced
as a t20 ship.
for fleet focus.
i'd use one if it had a significant increase in hullspace, but at the moment, it is nowhere near powerful enough to make it worth using (not when you can just get a heph machine and have 4 augs slots, and enough hull to fit whatever you want. the zeus throne is pathetic compared to the other oly ships)
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Re: Zeus Throne
3 Aug alots would break it as a capital ship, sorry, but yes, i agree, it needs a beef of some sort
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Re: Zeus Throne
with 3 aug slots, it would make bank zerkers viable again (and to be viable, they need to be able to kill the competition before they run out of elec/shields
and to do that they need to be significantly stronger, or "OP" as some would call it)
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The Lost One
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Re: Zeus Throne
As I said. Add in T21 Fleet Commander auras.
Change the inbuilt item(s) to be more powerful and way more useful.
Leave the rest of the stats as it is.
It is nice to have an option to the Red Photon Carrier, something more agile and smaller, which is what the Zeus Throne is. But the problem lies in the first 2 things I pointed out.
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Re: Zeus Throne
T21* auras pls
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Re: Zeus Throne
I would be a fan of seeing the throne get a sort of PBF treatment. Lower inbuilt stats and maybe resists for a 3rd aug slot. We already have the generic 2 aug slot Cap Ship in the form of Red Photon and cap ships in general tend to be very dull and linear. It is why there was a Dread at t20 and not major modifications on it compared to the multiple tiers and choices in other ship hull types.
The introduction of the PBF at t20 was pretty cool and the idea behind the ship was refreshing, turning the Throne into a more customizable ship at the cost of certain stats would simply give it that degree of difference so as to make it asymetric to vessels like the Warship and Carrier.
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Re: Zeus Throne
Don't forget Zeus Throne can be used by Gunners too, so putting class locked gear on it isn't an option really.
I must say though, I don't generally agree on the fact that a Hephaestus Machine requires a bunch of Bronze, while Zeus Throne requires the same amount but in Platinum. =/
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The Lost One
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Re: Zeus Throne
Just simply change the Jupiter's Call to actually spawn useful fighters then. Make them either DPS-heavy, or give them Greminvokers. The only reason Henchmen are useful is because of their grem, and let's face it, Zeus bolts are terrible. This way there is no class-locked gear added, as they are super specials.
Gunners can use Zeus Throne for sure, and they are a nice ship to use, but the Gunner class itself is the main problem as I see it. The Fleet Commander class is awesome, but there is nothing, and seriously nothing, apart from having low ship size, that would make a person use this over a Red Photon Carrier.
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