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Mail Team: Main: Time Warp Level: 3162 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:59 am Location: Australia	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war shawn_mccall wrote: Meh... They didn't really beat the shit out of them TW. They defended against an attack and exploited to move dying bases out of PvP range. But regardless I'm watching this closely as to see who will win will be very interesting. The factors in this are going to make for a cool fight. Kushan, the team I think we can all agree has the upper hand and will eventually come out on top if this continues, is in almost no danger from Talon's because they ran them into w1. Then running them into w1 not only made it easier for Kushan to defend it also made Talon's easier to attack. Talon's though has 1 definititive advantage they get to fight a defensive war which is a bitch to overcome. As well if Talon's has any sort of strategic ambition they already have all their resources in warp 1 and can move them around a bit as needed to build in certain high traffic galaxies as a way to make a much smaller force into a much more imposing enemy. Talon's does have one definite hope for victory though, they pose almost know threat to Kushan as an offensive force. However, kushan knowing they are the favored combatant sit in a very sensitive position. They will be much more vulnerable to attacks on morale because they will be confident in their ability to win so if you can counter them at every turn combined with cheap strategic attacks in w1 using bases and perma drones in places like FM or outside of areas like absol and underworld you can make very successful attacks that while they have no real concrete strategic effect they do wonders for morale killing. Kushan = Fail... They Tried to take the galaxy with 1 shitty auged Andaman Kit. Time Warp _________________ Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so. ~Oscar Wilde andezrhode2a wrote: Timmeh is the exception to every rule. Battlecruiser23 wrote: /Timmeh! I mean /signed! sabre198 wrote: 1. Create C2 2. Time Warp quits 3. New players join 4. ... Profit?!?
Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:39 pm

asassainscreed Team: Main: Assassin's Sniper Level: 3061 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:04 am	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war shawn_mccall wrote: Meh... They didn't really beat the shit out of them TW. They defended against an attack and exploited to move dying bases out of PvP range. But regardless I'm watching this closely as to see who will win will be very interesting. The factors in this are going to make for a cool fight. Kushan, the team I think we can all agree has the upper hand and will eventually come out on top if this continues, is in almost no danger from Talon's because they ran them into w1. Then running them into w1 not only made it easier for Kushan to defend it also made Talon's easier to attack. Talon's though has 1 definititive advantage they get to fight a defensive war which is a bitch to overcome. As well if Talon's has any sort of strategic ambition they already have all their resources in warp 1 and can move them around a bit as needed to build in certain high traffic galaxies as a way to make a much smaller force into a much more imposing enemy. Talon's does have one definite hope for victory though, they pose almost know threat to Kushan as an offensive force. However, kushan knowing they are the favored combatant sit in a very sensitive position. They will be much more vulnerable to attacks on morale because they will be confident in their ability to win so if you can counter them at every turn combined with cheap strategic attacks in w1 using bases and perma drones in places like FM or outside of areas like absol and underworld you can make very successful attacks that while they have no real concrete strategic effect they do wonders for morale killing. You should do like, an SS newsletter. _________________ I feel that I must share the awesomeness of one of the best riffs in history. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7mfaztK ... re=related +1 Internets
Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:43 pm

Tron20 Team: Main: Higaran Leader Level: 2569 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:12 pm	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war goett wrote: cool Way cool, XD. Time Warp, we do not fail. We set 1 T16 base, and it dead. Yeah, that doesn't mean we fail. It's like TW setting 1 T20 base to bvb DM, and it dies. TW doesn't fail. They just don't want to use many resources. As we don't want to use many resources for this war. And that shitty auged T16 kit out dps that galaxy.
Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:52 pm

shawn_mccall Team: Main: shawn - mccall Level: 2411 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:53 am	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war That was the product of my boredom/rambling. Anyway TW the failure was, in my opinion, the product of the confidence in their inevitable victory I referred to earlier. If you consider yourself superior to your enemy you get sloppy. However, after you lose something as a result of it you get smarter(and lose a bit of morale ). Which makes Pheonix Talons situation even more interesting because with every victory they make their enemy more intelligent and thus more effective. Kushan is in relatively the same position though, because they are the agressors every second they allow PT(finally decided on what to call Pheonix Talons!) to survive they will become more and more effective at countering Kushan with the war developing into an interminable stalemate. I.E. LC vs TW/DM, in all honesty DM, at the very beginning of the first war DM(& JAWSS) had with LC, had the necessary players and strength to sweep through LC's gals in one fell swoop. In reality though DM started with a series of disorganized attacks utilizing quantity of players and almost entirely ignoring any strategic organization that could have brought them an easy victory. LC lost 2 bases to this but eventually figured out what they needed to do to stop DM's progress. As time progressed the attacks increased in sophistication, moving away from disorganized assaults and making very good use of attacking 2 galaxies at once to split the defensive force. All of these attempts fell short though in that they had in earlier assaults prepared their enemy for what was to come. After that it took 2 years and almost no real assaults until a stunningly brilliant assault was organized by Tallon that swept through 20+ allied galaxies in a matter of hours uncontested. Why was this so effective when other similar assaults had failed? Because Tallon had the advantage of an opponent who had grown over confident and unprepared, and he didn't hit with the half assed force you would expect to take on an unprepared enemy with. He hit with everyting he had, using all he could get from within his own team and DM. So just like with that war, Kushan and PT will have to realize that the victor of this will not be the one who attacks most it will be those that make smarter attacks and better organized attacks based upon their available resources. Mmkay, I'm gonna try to cap my rambling at that. _________________ Neba wrote: BLACK PEOPLE DON'T GET RICE andezrhode wrote: goett wrote: All oly ships look way to geometrically conservative for my tastes. thats because most graphic designers are squares goett wrote: Fired bullets taste like candy.
Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:09 pm

Mail Team: Main: Time Warp Level: 3162 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:59 am Location: Australia	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war Well I mean I'm routing for phoenix talons so they've already won... Time Warp _________________ Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so. ~Oscar Wilde andezrhode2a wrote: Timmeh is the exception to every rule. Battlecruiser23 wrote: /Timmeh! I mean /signed! sabre198 wrote: 1. Create C2 2. Time Warp quits 3. New players join 4. ... Profit?!?
Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:34 pm

shawn_mccall Team: Main: shawn - mccall Level: 2411 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:53 am	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war Mail wrote: Well I mean I'm routing for phoenix talons so they've already won... Time Warp How about we make it fun and take bets? I'll put 20b on Kushan and 20b on PT(because I'm poor and stingy and can't stand the thought of losing money). _________________ Neba wrote: BLACK PEOPLE DON'T GET RICE andezrhode wrote: goett wrote: All oly ships look way to geometrically conservative for my tastes. thats because most graphic designers are squares goett wrote: Fired bullets taste like candy.
Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:40 pm

Mail Team: Main: Time Warp Level: 3162 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:59 am Location: Australia	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war shawn_mccall wrote: Mail wrote: Well I mean I'm routing for phoenix talons so they've already won... Time Warp How about we make it fun and take bets? I'll put 20b on Kushan and 20b on PT(because I'm poor and stingy and can't stand the thought of losing money). Only if I get ot help PT.. Time Warp _________________ Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so. ~Oscar Wilde andezrhode2a wrote: Timmeh is the exception to every rule. Battlecruiser23 wrote: /Timmeh! I mean /signed! sabre198 wrote: 1. Create C2 2. Time Warp quits 3. New players join 4. ... Profit?!?
Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:19 am

shawn_mccall Team: Main: shawn - mccall Level: 2411 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:53 am	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war Mail wrote: shawn_mccall wrote: Mail wrote: Well I mean I'm routing for phoenix talons so they've already won... Time Warp How about we make it fun and take bets? I'll put 20b on Kushan and 20b on PT(because I'm poor and stingy and can't stand the thought of losing money). Only if I get ot help PT.. Time Warp Okay but only if you can get the entirety of SP to do it with you and get EF to be on Kushan's side, would be epic. We should probably stop spamming eh? Especially since you're a mod and all... _________________ Neba wrote: BLACK PEOPLE DON'T GET RICE andezrhode wrote: goett wrote: All oly ships look way to geometrically conservative for my tastes. thats because most graphic designers are squares goett wrote: Fired bullets taste like candy.
Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:35 am

cej1120con Team: Main: Johnston V2 Level: 2324 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:11 pm Location: Northern Indiana	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war shawn_mccall wrote: Mail wrote: shawn_mccall wrote: How about we make it fun and take bets? I'll put 20b on Kushan and 20b on PT(because I'm poor and stingy and can't stand the thought of losing money). Only if I get ot help PT.. Time Warp Okay but only if you can get the entirety of SP to do it with you and get EF to be on Kushan's side, would be epic. We should probably stop spamming eh? Especially since you're a mod and all... Red and Green! CHRISTMAS _________________ ⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠ Last edited by cej1120con on January 1st, 1337, 6:66 am, edited over 9000 times in total.
Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:53 am

goett Team: Main: goett Level: 2157 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:36 pm	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war no insulting peops on forum shawner, tw's a good enough guy and once again bro this topic has nothing to do with us.
Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:26 am

thecrazygamemaster Team: Main: The Crazy Game Maste Level: 1031 Class: Engineer Joined: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:15 am Location: TARDIS, Time Vortex, Main Universe, Reality, Big Bang 2, Multiverse 1	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war Finally, a bunch of mid-level guys pvping. There is hope for SS yet. _________________ JeffL wrote: Not sure if the quality is really up to snuff, tbh. JeffL wrote: Maybe you guys are right. We can leave things how they are for now and get more feedback later.
Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:28 am

landswimmer Team: Main: DemonBlood Level: 1761 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:09 am	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war cej1120con wrote: shawn_mccall wrote: Mail wrote: Only if I get ot help PT.. Time Warp Okay but only if you can get the entirety of SP to do it with you and get EF to be on Kushan's side, would be epic. We should probably stop spamming eh? Especially since you're a mod and all... Red and Green! CHRISTMAS _________________ it is the mark of an educated man, to entertain a thought without accepting it. - aristotle
Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:38 am

shawn_mccall Team: Main: shawn - mccall Level: 2411 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:53 am	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war goett wrote: no insulting peops on forum shawner, tw's a good enough guy and once again bro this topic has nothing to do with us. I didn't insult Time Warp though, he is awesome lol. Although our spam was getting a bit extreme Edit: our spam was a bit extreme until DB and Johnston entered _________________ Neba wrote: BLACK PEOPLE DON'T GET RICE andezrhode wrote: goett wrote: All oly ships look way to geometrically conservative for my tastes. thats because most graphic designers are squares goett wrote: Fired bullets taste like candy.
Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:43 am

Mail Team: Main: Time Warp Level: 3162 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:59 am Location: Australia	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war shawn_mccall wrote: goett wrote: no insulting peops on forum shawner, tw's a good enough guy and once again bro this topic has nothing to do with us. I didn't insult Time Warp though, he is awesome lol. Although our spam was getting a bit extreme Edit: our spam was a bit extreme until DB and Johnston entered Lol goett, this is just the play between Shawn and I... You see he's my pet... Time Warp _________________ Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so. ~Oscar Wilde andezrhode2a wrote: Timmeh is the exception to every rule. Battlecruiser23 wrote: /Timmeh! I mean /signed! sabre198 wrote: 1. Create C2 2. Time Warp quits 3. New players join 4. ... Profit?!?
Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:01 am

shawn_mccall Team: Main: shawn - mccall Level: 2411 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:53 am	Re: Phoenix Talon's first big war Mail wrote: shawn_mccall wrote: goett wrote: no insulting peops on forum shawner, tw's a good enough guy and once again bro this topic has nothing to do with us. I didn't insult Time Warp though, he is awesome lol. Although our spam was getting a bit extreme Edit: our spam was a bit extreme until DB and Johnston entered Lol goett, this is just the play between Shawn and I... You see he's my pet... Time Warp You know I quoted that with the idea that I would have a snappy comeback ready by now but I seriously can't top that... Well played sir. _________________ Neba wrote: BLACK PEOPLE DON'T GET RICE andezrhode wrote: goett wrote: All oly ships look way to geometrically conservative for my tastes. thats because most graphic designers are squares goett wrote: Fired bullets taste like candy.
Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:28 am

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