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trevor54 Team: Main: Trevor50 Level: 4503 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:01 pm Location: Alabama	Re: PVP calculations ceiling 5dave5 wrote: Dorin Nube wrote: pvp level restrictions cause more problems than they solve because of exploits using low level alts. The first thing you should do is remove ALL pvp limits for teams that are at war. Then remove ALL pvp limits for your team against anyone who attacks a member of your team or heals someone who is attacking a member of your team, or provides elec, auras, or any other kind of support for someone who is attacking a member of your team. Let the pvp limits go back to normal after a certain amount of time has passed, the same as it does with base aggro. Then, you could narrow down the pvp limits a whole bunch to protect actual newer players who are on small teams. They would be protected from bullies, but if they attack someone, they have to face the full fury of that person and their team. Players have been asking for no pvp limits during war for a long, long time because of all the exploits it causes, but there are generally no admin responses. Jeff, is this something you see as a bad idea, or is it just a matter of finding time to implement it among all the other priorities you have? ^, especially the italic part. _________________ Ricoh wrote: might sound hard 4 u...but learn reading? Stay strong, live long, and walk humbly. Strawberry Blueberry Pancakes
Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:13 pm

Mr Jiggles Team: Main: The Jiggly One Level: 2 Class: None Joined: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:14 am	Re: PVP calculations ceiling Hmm... the above post is good. Kanga _________________ JeffL wrote: There are over 9000 DF 400!
Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:57 pm

JeffL Site Admin / Dev Team Team: Main: Jeff_L Level: 1028 Class: Sniper Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:21 am Location: Santa Clara, CA	Re: PVP calculations ceiling The reason I'm generally hesitant to go for no level restrictions in mutual war is that I feel like it would destroy the possibility of a team with higher level players recruiting new players. If a level 50 joins a team with level 1000's, and they end up getting in a war, that level 50 is just screwed and just get killed all over the place. But perhaps such a mixed team is pure fantasy on my part... _________________ For support, please create a support ticket here and I will get back to you as soon as possible.
Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:27 am

mejunkie Member Team: Main: Dr Junkie Level: 2230 Class: Berserker Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:29 am	Re: PVP calculations ceiling I think it is. The only lvl 50's on the higher teams are usually alts of the existing team members. Besides, I dont see what a "true" lvl 50 would be doing on a high end team. They are far better off exploring the universe with people around their own lvl. I also agree with the above quoted post. I think thats a far better way of doing it. _________________ This post was brought to you by: The original Junkie Your very own fire-breathing dragon!
Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:01 am

newman233 Member Team: Main: Kangaroo_blob Level: 3102 Class: Berserker Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:37 pm Location: Married to: CSE	Re: PVP calculations ceiling Yeah Jeff, you wont get too many higher end teams recruiting level 50's, due to their usual lack of maturity, and the high amount of time/effort that needs to be put into helping them develop. Also if the lower level player is not really a 12year old or an idiot, then if they get into a higher end team they will hit level 500+ in a week or two, meaning they can fend for themselves. Kanga _________________ Illegitimi Non Carborundum
Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:49 am

HAL Dev Team Team: Main: HAL 9000 Level: 1002 Class: Berserker Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:00 pm	Re: PVP calculations ceiling You might get people who specifically abuse that though. For example PvP team A could set up a fake team B, declare mutual war with themselves, then recruit a bunch of noobs who don't know any better. Before they know it they get chain podded by level 2000 players and they don't know why.
Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:25 am

MagicSteve Team: Main: Stooch Level: 1619 Class: Gunner Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:41 pm Location: Gilkerscleugh	Re: PVP calculations ceiling The only people who would fall for that Hal would be the really low newbies. And frankly it wouldnt be the worth the time and credits to chain pod newbs. _________________ Meep
Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:30 am

The Voomy One Darth Administrator Team: Main: The Voomy One Level: 1337 Class: Sniper Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:06 am	Re: PVP calculations ceiling HAL wrote: You might get people who specifically abuse that though. For example PvP team A could set up a fake team B, declare mutual war with themselves, then recruit a bunch of noobs who don't know any better. Before they know it they get chain podded by level 2000 players and they don't know why. That would be a extremely obvious way of abusing the system though, cant be done without people finding out. _________________ For support, please create a support ticket here.
Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:31 am

HAL Dev Team Team: Main: HAL 9000 Level: 1002 Class: Berserker Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:00 pm	Re: PVP calculations ceiling MagicSteve wrote: The only people who would fall for that Hal would be the really low newbies. And frankly it wouldnt be the worth the time and credits to chain pod newbs. Were you around for the days when attacking a team member would open up PvP range for the entire team? Back then people tricked noobs all the time with "Can you test my shields?" scams, even though they had nothing to gain from it, it was "fun" to ruin someones day.
Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:38 am

newman233 Member Team: Main: Kangaroo_blob Level: 3102 Class: Berserker Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:37 pm Location: Married to: CSE	Re: PVP calculations ceiling The point is now though HAL, the playerbase has changed, and look at iWin/SSS, they are getting cut off from everything by EF because of what they have done. Kanga _________________ Illegitimi Non Carborundum
Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:43 am

MagicSteve Team: Main: Stooch Level: 1619 Class: Gunner Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:41 pm Location: Gilkerscleugh	Re: PVP calculations ceiling HAL wrote: MagicSteve wrote: The only people who would fall for that Hal would be the really low newbies. And frankly it wouldnt be the worth the time and credits to chain pod newbs. Were you around for the days when attacking a team member would open up PvP range for the entire team? Back then people tricked noobs all the time with "Can you test my shields?" scams, even though they had nothing to gain from it, it was "fun" to ruin someones day. Saying "Test my shields" is alot simpler than creating a fake team and paying for a war between the two teams. Flying around til you find someone willing to join your team, then switching character to find and kill him. Yes some people might do it, but it isnt going to be a widespread thing. And if they do, ban them. _________________ Meep
Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:46 am

VatFF Team: Main: FFs V Level: 3006 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:33 am	Re: PVP calculations ceiling newman233 wrote: The point is now though HAL, the playerbase has changed, and look at iWin/SSS, they are getting cut off from everything by EF because of what they have done. Kanga actually quite fun, i havent seen them in ages _________________ JeffL wrote: I stopped being able to totally understand that function years ago. Too long since I wrote it, and now it's all confusing. =) The Voomy One wrote: You gotta be shitting me >_<
Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:48 am

flamingeffigy Team: Main: Budahead Charm Level: 2298 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:56 pm Location: deep, deep, very deep in space	Re: PVP calculations ceiling Badgerlost wrote: Go for it jeff. Then alot of people will just make low levels to kill low levels. Low level shield monkeys can heal level 3000s and i wont even be able to shoot the shield monkey. This isnt a good idea... good point omg i just agreed with Helro :O _________________ bobbyj wrote: Reincarnation u cant go 2 heaven or hell u have another chance 2 fuck up ur life http://www.teamunderdawgs.webs.com/
Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:07 am

Demiser of D Team: Main: Demiser of D Level: 20 Class: None Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:46 pm Location: Listening to Fire On High, best song ever.	Re: PVP calculations ceiling How about we just have it like it is right now, except lower levels can attack anyone higher than them, but the lower level has to turn their safety lock off first? _________________ JeffL wrote: That's it. I quit! Battlecruiser23 wrote: Fuck you, Cygnus.
Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:24 pm

JeffL Site Admin / Dev Team Team: Main: Jeff_L Level: 1028 Class: Sniper Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:21 am Location: Santa Clara, CA	Re: PVP calculations ceiling Demiser of D wrote: How about we just have it like it is right now, except lower levels can attack anyone higher than them, but the lower level has to turn their safety lock off first? lol, that's the one system I will never go back to, for reasons HAL pointed out. It was far, far worse than the current system we have now, because it was confusing and so easy to trick people. Just going by tickets and complaints we receive about PvP, our PvP complaints went from constant stream to almost nothing overnight when we changed to our current PvP level restrictions from the old why where you could attack anyone higher than you and then they could attack back. But iWin has brought back the constant stream of tickets and complaints. Thanks guys. =/ _________________ For support, please create a support ticket here and I will get back to you as soon as possible.
Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:09 pm

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