There is a problem, Tarik. Most what you say is true, but when this guide was written, there was a number of things that wasn't out.

For example:
The energies did not calculate per second. It was in 1.2 second chunks. Because of that, you really couldn't power CAL's or ACAL's.

Also, you can use a gunner without a healer. Gunner can attain a range greater than a sniper and AI don't have gravity disrupter's. Push and fire, push and fire.

And if you need a shm while fighting one lone SD, you're doing something wrong. A Gunner is a beast at PvP if you actually know how to use it.

Energies did not get beefed, the display just changed.


SDs tend to have ridiculous mining resists and it's hard to hit a SD with missiles. Also endgame SDs hurt.

Leo and Stooch have Dread gunners that make SD's stay far away. Could it be that the panther is the Endgame SD's ship of choice, and noone besides you use a DS+ for PvP, and thats why they get slapped silly. They are stubborn.

Its not stubborn its the best choise for hiding running burst dps etc, DS+ is balanced but doesnt have the attributes that make panther popular.
Btw, best EFF gunner setup for CALCs and missiles to powerlevel in today's world, anyone?
~pr0m

Oh, how the mighty have leveled.
~pr0m

It's very possible to run your dread or EFBC with no panels at all. I can't quite permafire my ACALS, but I can fire them and missiles together for a long enough time to finish most DG levels and then be fully charged again by the time I finish scooping the loot. My PvP setup can generally power long enough to kill a couple ShMs and their Selens with no panels and then regen fairly quickly afterwards, but remember that gunners are practically custom made to kill freighters, so that's not so challenging. SDs / Seers always fly away enough that my energy has time to regen while they're hiding. I have enough energy to kill a Zerker, assuming his massive dps doesn't kill me first. Anyhow, my point is that a setup that can almost power those ACALs but saves all the hull space from those 37 panels and can fight in any galaxy is much better for my playing style than one that can power ACALs indefinitely.

A healer isn't really necessary unless I'm doing UZ ubers or PvP against a high damage class like a zerker, but then they almost always have their own healer too, so it's a wash. I've heard of gunners soloing Prince without a monkey, but for the life of me I can't figure out how they do it unless it's just some combination of tweaks I haven't worked out yet.

I posted that pre-rebalance, everything I said is possibly wrong now.