Hey guys,

We've been working on a system to make BvB against owned gals (new HQ territory stuff) and wars a bit less "instant".
Here is our proposed change: http://wiki.starsonata.com/index.php/Pr ... ar_Changes Please comment in this thread about what you think of the 1st bit only. I will make a separate thread about the second bit (surrendering).

NOTE: Until this is patched in (the first part), the future laying of an HQ to BVB an owned gal will be deemed an exploit.

Support issues:
As you all have seen in Misc, Voomy has decided to retire from active admining. This has left a hole in our ticket answering and support, which I will be taking over for the time being. I will be filtering almost all ticket categories and handling them myself or transferring them to the appropriate person. Hopefully this will lead to quicker responses then you've seen in the last few days while we found a solution to that problem. Feedback on this is welcome, either here or by PM to me.

That's all for today.
-pip-

But this means we still have to move our HQ, or make an alt team....unless im reading it wrong it inturn does nothing.


Ps, Thanks for a clear rule, Should be no work a rounds to that rule.

If you want to BvB an owned gal, you need to be connected. That means either making a path to it, or demoing your HQ which will cause all your gals to be unowned. This was the original plan for HQ takeovers.

Ah ok, so you have to give up alot to take some or possible take alot...I like the general idea. Open yourself up to an attack TO attack...Sounds good.

so basically before doing some bvb in owned territories you may as well just tell them your plans because there is no longer such a thing as a suprise attack...

Right.. because building massive space bases wouldn't really be a surprise.

Pip what if an "Alt" team lays an HQ and isnt at yet war with them yet....

pip you know exactly what i mean...yes once the team your about to attack sees the bases they would know they are about to be attacked...but grabbing the gal next door and having to wait 24 hours is a huge warning. and what fun is a war if everyone gets a warning ahead of time?

alt team needs to declare, and then there's 24 hours max time until the war actually "starts", or sooner if the target team decides to do so...



if you go and deploy next to target galaxy own it and declare, you have to wait 24 hours

if you are already in war, go deploy and own, still 24h waiting period..
in this case, you have to wait 24h max, but during that time you are open to attacks... since the war is already on and the target gal has been owned for long time

Before this you couldn't attack owned gals at all with bases. You can still PVP ppl without the warning, we're just making it so you can take over gals in 30 minutes, which seems fair to me.

Also, just talked to Jeff... for now making an Alt team to make an HQ next to someone (once the changes go in, of course) will be legal. At some point in the future we will program something in to make this much tougher, but that way we don't have an unprogrammed rule again. Ppl will have enough warning with the new system that an alt team shouldn't be able to do too much damage if those ppl are ready.

one more question, If Team A lays low lvl base out of pvp range no matter what, and waits 24 h and then lays a base in the next gal, And the base gets transfered to a higher end char, so that it can bvb what do you do in this situation , i propose once both sides fully declare the pvp range is unlimited.

soo whats the next step? we have to contact the opposing team and ask permission to bvb maybe? and trevor is right open pvp ranges in any df except for sol ofc would solve some of the problems..and instead of a 24 hr waiting period i think 30 minutes is more then enough

i approve of these proposed changes

-apper