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Post Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
The patch before the Easter patch YOU broke sync and uni map loading.
Yeah, you added shiny new visual elements, but broke GAME PLAY!
I, and dozens of others, hoped this would be fixed with the Easter patch, but NO!
What the hell!!!
You added MORE shiny elements to SS, but you still haveny fixed what you broke.
9 minutes to load a uni map EVERY TIME i log on at 5 different computers.
the only way to reliably dock at a moving playerbase is in a docking augged EFDN. Travel ships (2caly2hera DS for example) are COMPLETELY useless.
forgive me for shouting, but....
FIX THE SHIT THAT WORKED BEFORE YOU BROKE IT!!!!!
You know it is broken, you know you broke it. who gives a crap about ZBS stats and other shit when WE CANT DOCK AT OUR BASES!!!!!
What the F are you guys doing.....

FIX IT !!!!
FIX IT !!!!
FIX IT !!!!

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Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:55 am
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
Oh, and factories... you tried to fix factories, but broke those too.

And you guys know you broke them. i am frustrated as hell as to why you wont fix that was working.
This isnt like when SS2 launched.
You obviously have plenty of time to put in shiny new worthless shit.
but CBA to fix the shit that was working that you broke.
you have a fix. rollback to 2 patches ago until you figure out how to reapir your fuck up.
whatever you do... stop adding bullshit content and fix the playability issues.

FIX IT !!!!
FIX IT !!!!
FIX IT !!!!

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Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:08 am
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
Go learn C++ and volunteer to help Jey then.

Also note: the people who work on code don't work on content.

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Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:11 am
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
Griffin wrote:
Also note: the people who work on code don't work on content.


This, my Easter content and Aurora's changes to missiles etc are nothing to do with code issues that you are experiencing.

Jey fixed factories to how they are meant to work given the design, not breaking them (unless he changed something else I'm unaware of)

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Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:32 am
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
Blue Dwarf wrote:
Jey fixed factories to how they are meant to work given the design, not breaking them (unless he changed something else I'm unaware of)


My factories worked fine this morning, it once again takes ages to create stuffs

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Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:11 am
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
This isn't the first time base docking has been broken. Last time it took forever to fix too. This time it seems to be a combination of desyncing and the strange 3D element in the game.

I am only guessing that it is desyncing because many times log off and log on then quickly dock is the only way to dock with my base.

Strange 3D stems from an observance that some bases are isntalled higher up on a planet. Above the flat world we are held to most of the time. But this higher "elevation for lack of a better term" (more like a bump in flatland continuum) makes it really hard to get the ship at the right "elevation" to dock.


Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:02 am
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
In regards to the comment that I learn to program and fix the problem myself...
No thank you! I pay about $80 a month for all my subs.
I am doing my part trying to keep SS alive.
The issue is, and this is the good part.....
It worked before they broke it!
Before the patch before last Uni map loading and docking/sync worked perfectly. Then, a patch to add some cool new stuff, especially when docked at a base, only thing is, after patch impossible to dock for some ships to see the shiny new shit.
Stop making excuses for the dev team, and have them fix the shit they break before they add new shit...
Seems like a no brainer.

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Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:46 am
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
You need to understand the content devs and code devs are independent to some degree. Just because the content devs get things added in it doesn't mean that they have the know how to fix most of the problems in the code.

For example: that's like having a custodian fix a nuclear reactor just because his co-worker is a nuclear engineer.

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Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:35 am
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
Griffin wrote:
For example: that's like having a custodian fix a nuclear reactor just because his co-worker is a nuclear engineer.



Yes, Jey was most put out with me when I broke all the things and caused a RB. He's still not forgiven me, and is most suspicious of all my changes. :oops:

BetaMonster wrote:
You added MORE shiny elements to SS, but you still haveny fixed what you broke.



Content devs only add shiny things, we don't add code:

Pecking Order of SS team

  • Jeff
  • Jey, HAL & other coders
  • People who can do math
  • Content devs who don't break things
  • Content devs who break all the things

The truth is that if we (content) need to do something that's not currently possible we hound, beg, ambush & heckle coding devs to add it in ~ and sometimes that takes a bit of time. None of the new content actively breaks things: it might not work due to technical hiccups (Strontium: I'd asked a tag to do something that it couldn't do, which was stupid of me, so we required a new tag, which HAL made in record time), but it won't effect the core of the game.


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Jeff / Jey / HAL etc are very, very, very aware of the issues, and work hard to fix them ~ all the coders regularly put in 4 - 6 am nights when there's a new patch. Doesn't help when content devs break stuff, either.


Jey's current thread on the issue, which is where he's working on it.


Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:58 am
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
Aurora Ex Machina wrote:
Pecking Order of SS team

  • Jeff
  • Jey, HAL & other coders
  • People who can do math
  • Content devs who don't break things
  • Content devs who break all the things


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Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:25 pm
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
Oh shit... another CONTENT patch with no fix for the crap that was broken with the patch before easter patch.
Someone needs to make a LAW!
if gameplay is broken, and yes, the inability to dock at a playerbase attached to a moving planet is broken, NO CONTENT until problem is fixed.
WTF am i supposed to do in a SS to dock at my forge. My SS is on top of the f'ing forge but cant dock because i'm too far away.
Granted, my big fat 100mil weight SS is sooo big and fat i cannot see my forge, as i am on top of it, perhaps my forge warped away while i was getting ready to dock at it. but prolly it is just that the fucking game is broken.
Sooo many people working on content, but no fix for the shit that is broken.
But, and major lol here, PLENTY of "IT ISNT MY PROBLEM" comments above.
with so many people working on content, and cranking out content and content fixes, how about tasking someone to FIX THE GAMEPLAY!
WTF is the point of content when playability is screwed up and has been for weeks now.
Where is Jeff on this. Has he tried docking at a moving base with a travelship?
what are we supposed to do if we need to dock for fuel because a gal is under attack. we have to re-log several times in some cases to dock, get fuel then AP to a battle where a teams livelyhood is at stake, only we cant....
we had to relog and have to wait 5 minutes for the map to show the fuck up....
and i know, there will be a whole slew of "IT'S NOT MY PROBLEMS" generated by this. is there no one that can/will take ownership of a problem. i assume there should be, as someone is available to take ownership of the $ i pay for 8 subs every month.
How about providing some CUSTOMER SERVICE, and FIX THE GAME!

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Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:35 pm
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
If you're going to rage on no matter what they do, I think the game is better off without you.

Even Bonecrusher is more mature.


Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:44 pm
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
WTF!
what do you mean i will "Rage no matter what they do".
I simply want them to fix what they broke, look up, it is right there in the title of this thread.
shit is broke, shit needs to be fixed, simple as that.
Have you ever seen a piece of crap car, hood one color, fender another color, missing a window, bumper bent, car value $200.00 WITH a full tank of gas, but it has $5,000.00 spinny rims on it.
That is the shit you get when you add shiny content without fixing the real problems, most would refer to this as turd polishing, but SS isnt a turd.
SS is awesome, when it works. and when people break it and refuse to fix it, i dont like that.
SS is my friend that i pay almost $100.00 a month to hang out with me.
but someone broke it.
all i want is a fix. all anyone wants is a fix, and max, telling people the game would be better off without them because they want a problem fixed is immature as hell. you should reconsider your comment.
or... better yet.... get someone to FIX THE GAME!!! lol

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Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:57 pm
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
Or what, little Nubulous is going to war me?


Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:02 pm
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Post Re: Why cant you fix the crap you broke?
Well, i guess that answers the question about your maturity level.
so, you cant fix the game... darn...
Anyone else?
All i want is it to be as fixed as it was before it got broke just a short time ago. not too much to ask.

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