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Camsy wrote:
Also AEM, would you be able to reduce build costs on most of the new factories? They seem a bit overpriced, large MIRV's costing ~4b per factory... At that price i'll probs only get the mirv and maybe 1 other. If you reduced them so they're 1bish per I'd happily go buy all 10 of them, or however many there was.



No.

You build these once, and the missile crates themselves cost 100 credits.


The idea is to make the "buy-in" large, but the "pay-off" equally large. It's the same principle of a top level zerker buying x5 Lincins (or whatever).

Once you've bought it, your costs are practically zero ~ well, apart from the basic crates you're converting.


Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:27 pm
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@ Dorin.

Having your weapon change put in combination with the missile beef would make augging for DPS useless. Weapons would do terrible damage like they do now, so as I said previously I'm better off just augging 3 Hera+ and spamming missiles from 2k away.

That is not how Capship Gunner is meant to be played.

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Ok, some of these new missiles should definitely be gunner locked. Especially the disentegrators since they debuff resists.

Is there a way to make the debuffs only work for gunners?

I'd rather not have all of the missiles gunner only, but it'd make gunners useless again if other classes could use debuff missiles.

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Personally I think all of the new missiles should be gunner locked. Leave AP, kinetic and zaphragi as anyone but these should be what defines gunners.

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Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:32 pm
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Camsy wrote:
Personally I think all of the new missiles should be gunner locked. Leave AP, kinetic and zaphragi as anyone but these should be what defines gunners.



There's certainly an argument for limiting some of the new missiles, esp. for slaves.


Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:28 pm
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This beef has changed the way that launchers work. Now, launchers fan out missiles in a sort of onion layer formation. Because of this, faster and smaller targets end up dodging the missiles as they move around and attempt to follow. This means that I end up losing the DPS in order to do Knight, Sputty, and others.

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Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:29 pm
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Griffin wrote:
This beef has changed the way that launchers work. Now, launchers fan out missiles in a sort of onion layer formation. Because of this, faster and smaller targets end up dodging the missiles as they move around and attempt to follow. This means that I end up losing the DPS in order to do Knight, Sputty, and others.



Yes, Capital launchers are designed to do that to prevent you squat / spamming so much.


Clever, eh?


Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:38 pm
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I can't do anything now. Weapons are useless and now I can't get the necessary DPS to kill any uber. I just failed BfH.

I thought this was supposed to be some sort of beef.

EDIT: I even tried Lancers on Sputty. They wouldn't dent.

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Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:42 pm
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Griffin wrote:
I can't do anything now. Weapons are useless and now I can't get the necessary DPS to kill any uber. I just failed BfH.

I thought this was supposed to be some sort of beef.



1) Are you using either of the three gunner only gun upgrades?

2) Are you using the new missiles? If so, are you using the right missiles for the job?


If neither of these = true, then you're complaining about the wrong things. We clearly said that class skills would take a lot longer to look at / alter.


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Lancers are long range (5k) AoE attack heat damage missiles ~ unless you're out ranging sputty, you're doing it wrong using them.

I'd suggest hitting sputty with a disrupter, a disintergrator then either an entanglement if you're kiting then a combo of bunkerbuster x1, MIRV x5.



The days of sitting there with jamming the 1 key are long gone: play accordingly.


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Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:45 pm
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I tried the lancers at a distance of ~3k and it didn't work. I know Sputty has amazing regen, but he also has 0% Heat resists.

Also, what gun upgrades? :o

EDIT: Don't get me wrong. I hate spamming the 1 key, I just also like to have a good amount of DPS. And yeah, I'll try that out. It's just a pain getting all the factories because they're so damn expensive.

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Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:48 pm
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Griffin wrote:
Also, what gun upgrades? :o



Ask around ~ I know that at least one of them has been found, and players have built them.

The BPs are not easy to acquire, however.


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Blargh. :|

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Preachers are excomm upgrade, bp drops from the absolution boss? Maybe the dg one? Not sure where to find CAniL's yet...

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Thanks. <3

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Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:42 am
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Patch:

  • New missiles locked to class
  • Fixed -resist missiles


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