MF Reavers occur down to DF330. There are many MF Reaver DGs this universe, and not many people are doing them, apart from the one galaxy that everyone (who seems to have a lack of exploration skills) is camping.

I think all of these changes are fine. Even the Exp modifier is something that I think is very fine.

Well whatever. This seems rash but let's see what happens.

Definitely. I have a few ideas I want to implement in the near future.

There are at least 40 galaxies with DGs with at least one level of MF Reavers.




AI need to be unique, but balanced. Balanced not only in difficulty and not only in exp per difficulty, but also in exp per time. Reavers are hard, because they hit hard and they are stealthy, but once you overcome both issues, they are cannon fodder. MF Reavers need an exp modifier because once you overcome their strengths, the exp per time is out of proportion compared to a player who mastered killing MF Picks or platties or any other AI in that level range.

There are two ways of reducing an AI's exp per time: Lowering level and an exp modifier. An AI's levels should be a representation of its difficulty. MF Reavers are hard (WITHOUT a specialized setup), their level is appropriate. The only solution is an exp modifier. Or bringing it in line with the other AI of its level, which would mean giving it a significant resistance or shield bank beef, which would destroy their uniqueness.

That's my opinion on the matter and so far I've only seen arguments such as (exaggerated!) "Please don't make me kill 5/4 more reavers! It's the only AI that exists, ever!"

Also I should mention that the exp modifier will not be active immediately. It needs a uni reset

Wait! That means there can be a test period for this before actually adding the nerf!

Fucking hell, shawn. You're making them sound like a scarier version of the Sniper Meavers. The things that one shotted Zerks and SD's.

u better be putting a 1.25 xp modifier on shit like 2k forgies then. cos now theres zilch to level off, consistently anyway.

Alex thats a shit list those ai are one per dg.

I agree with what thermal said, when I was an engi I had a astro with 1 gen mast, 2 off mast and I could easily do MFR DGs with titans and acmes and I didn't even get lower then 3/4 of my shield

Shawn has a good point. I'm going to give them some sort of PWI or an afterburner. Damage beef will take care of the classes that like tanking, mobility beef is something for snipers and SDs, but that will take a little while. Damage/range beef will go in before that

I don't like this change but I don't play any more so i could care less.

It's their game, they may fuck it up if they wish.

I know I'm joining the discussion late, but technically those are easy to kill, coz I can and I'm crap. In fact I'd put them as easier than MF reavers for my slaves and me... I do consider there to be other good levelling options for 1-2k players, and I dislike the pre-eminence of MF reaver levelling- it makes it dull.

XP modifiers are kind of ridiculous; It's kind of like saying "I know there's a problem that we could fix by adding more variations of current AI (easy solution), but i'm just gonna make you literally waste your time and effort killing them while you could be killing something else for more XP with less effort."

* I agree that a rebalance of MF reavers is necessary (probably the rest of the AI while you're at it as well; just make a balance sheet for AI difficulties), but the change should be accompanied by a vast increase in variations of high-level AI.

Slapping an XP modifier on 2 years too late is retro-active hand-slapping at best.

In retrospect, I agree.

Yay.