Honestly? Quit trollin. I have given my opinion on your idea at least three times now, and not just that I don't like it but why. It's not like I'm bitching because my Emp Ray doesn't have full tracking or my Merc Mag doesn't have enough range; anyone will tell you that 3-shot takes a lot of skill to use well on SD, and the new torp code has made it infuriatingly so against this one AI. There is absolutely no reason why the mechanic should be changed if its main effect is to mess up that aspect of gameplay.

If you actually want to know why your idea doesn't fit with my understanding of SD, forum pm me and we'll discuss. I see no reason to dilute my presence in this thread further with that matter.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I DON'T want them flying in a straight line, i want exactly the opposite...

But anyway, since you clearly don't know what i'm talking about and Enk possibly does, i sent him a PM and that should be good.


Returning to the topic at hand, before this change it was almost impossible to hit a SD at close range with a torp-type weapon if they were even marginally skilled. If that has been amended at all, i can't help but agree with it, even if it means that SD's will have to adjust tactics to compensate for it. If it's undodgable then it's different, but since SD's can fly faster than torps I can't believe that it would be that way.

EDIT: Allow me to step aside and say...Ye gods, you're all idiots. I went back and read my original suggestion, and i'm amazed at the ways you managed to completely ignore the basis of my suggestion, alter it to ways that were stupidly broken, and THEN you actually had the gall to COMPLAIN about YOUR tweaked version being broken!

/headdesk /headdesk /headdesk

Because I'm feeling nice, i'll say it again; I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT TRACKING. Everyone else seems to THINK that i said that, but I Didn't!

Pulse Speed, people. Speed. Like snipers. Speed. Not tracking. In fact, increasing pulse speed reduces tracking.

Not all SD combat is hitting your enemy with a wave of bullets from outside their range...

It's not hard to hit an SD with ZHT at close range if you ambush, and the crits will likely keep him stationary for your pew pews. If he can see you before you start firing... well maybe you should choose a different weapon? I don't see any reason why ZHT should excel at hitting small fast targets at close range; it was already quite dangerous in the middle distance due to low vis and high tracking and there are other weapons that fill that role (pretty much all non-torpedos).

As promised, not a word more from me on the subject of SD pulse speed. Stay focused!

I found the jiji to be a pretty dangerous weapon versing small fast players who attempt to stay close. They also tended to run like helro when mow warps in. No T21 ships.

So, yeah. Use a different weapon if a weapon isn't a jack-of-all-trades weapon. And if it is, it better be a high tier T21, or it's gonna get nerfed. Like when Engineers killed prince on a 2 energy, 1 shield astro with only 4 titan drones.

Aye, there's a visual bug as well but they do track from the start now, which is what this thread is about.

I personally want the whole code reverted to the old style. There was no reason for the change. Nothing more really needs to be said.

Agreed. This change was originally presented as "oops, realized things weren't working as planned for years--how do people like it the new way?" I haven't seen much support for it and I like to think that there have been a number of arguments against.

Due to the fact that it was not implemented as a balance but rather a simple change I would propose it be voted on. If torpedos stay the way they are currently or revert to how they were previously I don't think any balancing issues would be effected so this should be a simple player decision.