We're talking about building HQ teleporters anyway.

I would say ideally DG's or at least the last level of DG's would be instanced, but that's not really possible right now. I agree it's a problem, though if two of you are fighting over a boss in a non-PvP place, that could get really annoying. I'm willing to posit that the advantages of the change overall would outweigh this negative until we can get to DG instancing. Unless anyone else has a suggestion? PvP on DG level doesn't really work, I don't think, because then you'd just get PKers hiding in the boss level of a DG waiting for people to gank.

Rofl, seriously?

Excellent. Purely excellent.

These points may cover this topic or the uni size/shape topic.

1. Drones should be automatically scooped into your ship on death, item or no item.

NO! When PvPing an engineer the idea is to kill the engineer first so that the drones loose their bonus, then kill them If they're auto-scooped that's as bad as how broken engineers are in colo once they get a foothold. Don't be a noob.

2. Instant Teleporting needs to have a notification window. You die by a player, window pops up asking if you would like to teleport, with only one option: teleport. It stays there until you either teleport or come out of stasis.

4. Put all Special gals in EF space. Perp Motion, Lyceum, etc.

No, because then people cna stop others from accessing them. Leave them ALL where they are.

5. Gals that people fight over, like the engine-less gals or similar, should be put in Wild Space. Labyrinth and Hyper, XYZ.

No, leave them where they are.

6. Wild Space needs to have a ton more w2 gals, at least half.

7. DG Bosses and roaming bosses need to be put in EF space.

No.

8. Zones like Oly, RP, UZ, and that new seer place need to be put in EF space (not sure on this one).

No. You're such a carebear.

Rather than auto-tow just make towing stations more frequent and make towing give you a +1k shield/energy recharge while you're docked at the station, maybe consume credits for this, like 1m a second, just an example. Its like getting your ship patched.

The idea of auto-tow would suck for PvB where people do die a lot. But if you must put auto-tow in..maybe if base has shot the squad the person is on within last say..30sec in same gal, then no auto-tow should happen..



edit: I like Neba's suggestion of the tow fees going to the person who got the kill.

I guess if we made the towing optional, that would be less of a departure from the current system, so maybe better that way. Someone suggested in chat that the towing shouldn't be when you get killed, but when you attempt to get back into your ship a dialog pops up with whether or not you want a tow. The advantage of this is that you don't have to leave a "yes/no" dialog open while you decide if you want to tow. You can watch the battle play out and direct your slaves, and then when you've decided, you can hop in and tow or not. The other thing I was thinking along these lines was with slaves, we can have two options for them when they get back into yellow stasis, which would be "leave stasis" and "leave stasis and tow".

I like this idea, a lot.

I'm not sure if we want to offer the choice to tow to a player not killed in PvP. I suppose for consistency we should, but maybe if you weren't killed in PvP, you should have to pay money, but that's kind of exploitable if you just get your friend to PK you for a free tow.

Don't make the towing fee too expensive (100mil tops if you are a level 1k). That would discourage the possible exploit.

Also, if you've taken some damage from a player and some from an AI, that would still count as dying in PvP.

I agree that the idea that people can escape to safe space is a troubling one. What would people think if anyone who PvP's is not allowed into non-PvP space or instances for 5 minutes (or some other duration)? Yes, in the long run, you could ninja someone today and hide in PvE space tomorrow, but if people are after you, that's still a huge portion of the game that will be quite treacherous or unpassable to KOS people.

So, 1 mil a sec, let's mess over people with high shield banks, if I regened to full there I'd cost me over 500mil, stupid.

Jeff, what about galaxy sieges? If you're attacking a well-fortified galaxy, dying is not only possible, it's expected. If you got teleported away whenever you died, people would never be able to PvB again. Same with Emperor claims and other group-based PvP.


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