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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
Because it's a retarded option, your forcing the whole playerbase to completely change their setups especially engineers with old setups are getting screwed over by this. This probably won't mean much to the big fish but it will be hell to the smaller not as rich players.

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Fri May 20, 2011 2:20 pm
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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
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if you have a decent reason we would love to hear it Jeff :)


He's obviously not going to give you any more reasons. Why don't you all live with it or ragequit, and spare us the hysterics.


more reasons? the only one I have heard was "because we can and it looks really cool" and why would we live with it? or ragequit? I play this game as an engineer because it's the only class that really amuses me. what would you do if they made the SD sub/skill give -100% tracking? or lower the range ever more? would you live with it or ragequit? I bet you would do the same as we are doing right now.

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because we can and it looks really cool

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Fri May 20, 2011 2:26 pm
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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
The difference is that plenty of people who do have engineers have already said they don't mind the change. I really lose a lot of sympathy when I see that sort of response.

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Fri May 20, 2011 2:39 pm
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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
I doubt they have PvPed in C2, and also idc untill I can test it on my own, right now it sounds horrible and many have agreed with me.

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because we can and it looks really cool

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Fri May 20, 2011 2:42 pm
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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
New argument here:

thijs12b wrote:
Because it's a retarded option, your forcing the whole playerbase to completely change their setups especially engineers with old setups are getting screwed over by this. This probably won't mean much to the big fish but it will be hell to the smaller not as rich players.

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Fri May 20, 2011 2:45 pm
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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
Charging is a good thing. Get over it.

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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
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New argument here:

thijs12b wrote:
Because it's a retarded option, your forcing the whole playerbase to completely change their setups especially engineers with old setups are getting screwed over by this. This probably won't mean much to the big fish but it will be hell to the smaller not as rich players.


New Answer: Shouldn't have wasted your aug resets.
New Newer Answer: You don't have to changed your setup, mine still works fine.

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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
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Charging is a good thing. Get over it.


I never said charging was a bad thing, I like how classes with low energy bank can use other items fully, but DRONE charging? it's fucking stupid.

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because we can and it looks really cool

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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
It more than looks better. It also plays better. I also don't think it's really worth discussing unless you guys have actually tried it out for a bit.

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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
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It more than looks better. It also plays better. I also don't think it's really worth discussing unless you guys have actually tried it out for a bit.


let us try it, please let us try it and get feedback from the whole playerbase.

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because we can and it looks really cool

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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
Jeff, one change i strongly support is making all drones charge at once. Only being able to charge one drone at a time really takes away from the importance of having bank compared to regen.

Okay, after playtesting it, this is what i have to say;

The equip limit is just stupidly annoying. If it were DOUBLE what it currently is, it might be barely tolerable, but it would still be stupidly annoying depending on the circumstances.

The charge rate is stupidly slow. If i wanted to sit around doing nothing i would be doing that, rather than playing SS. Make them all charge at once, it just makes sense.

Charging COULD work...the trouble is that if its made to be enjoyable, it becomes gamebreaking because of the huge amount of extra bank it effectively gives you! You have GOT to find a good balance between two, because at the moment, its entirely biased against playability. Its like having a concert pianist with 2 fingers, it might work, but not very damn well.

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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
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It more than looks better. It also plays better. I also don't think it's really worth discussing unless you guys have actually tried it out for a bit.


Saying that, then restricting the testers to a small group that you will KNOW will agree with you?

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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
I dont agree. And i will give them hell for it until i am satisfied, i can assure you that.

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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
I have yet to personally test it but from the looks I would say Cyg hit my 2 pain concerns as well. At the moment I normally carry AInf, ACharge, BMBD4 and BFDs with me. I can choose to drop any of these in any amounts I want at any speed I so choose being limited by my bank and regen.

With the new system I would be limited on what drones I can drop along with limited on how quickly I can redrop. This is not based on my bank/regen but instead on an internal timer which I also need to take time to make sure is running with the proper drones.

Our current set-up is good. If you do decide to change to charging (which seems to be unquestionable already) then please address these issues, otherwise we just end up with a nerf to any serious engineer.

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Post Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
I have a slightly different setup than most engineers and the limit of 12drones charged would make me completely ineffective, Spattz is probably representative of most engineers in the drones they carry but I currently carry and can deploy at anytime: adv Command and Controls, huge forcefields, bubble drones, armada infernos, armada charges, armadas, BFDs and titans for throw aways; I carry at least 6 of every one of those drones so i can deploy full sets if needed, 12 slots is not going to cut it...


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