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Demiser of D
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
Personally i'd prefer to have a number that is NOT a multiple of 6. That way we don't feel compelled to have full sets of drones equipped at once.
Personally, i'd say 15, but that's just me. The problem is, as we get to higher and higher numbers, it starts getting sorta arbitrary; why have a limit on the number of drones we can charge at all?
In addition, why have to charge drones one at a time? It seems like it would make far more sense to charge them all at the same time, and thus remove many of the issues we have presently.
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thebattler35
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
Demiser of D wrote: Personally, i'd say 15, but that's just me. The problem is, as we get to higher and higher numbers, it starts getting sorta arbitrary; why have a limit on the number of drones we can charge at all?
I was stating the minimum tolerable level, not ideal
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playerboy345
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
JeffL wrote: Yes, you can charge more drones than you can deploy, which means you can have 2 sets fully charged going into the battle and deploy your 2nd set immediately upon scooping the first set. This aspect is a significant beef, but you do lose a little bit of flexibility possibly. may I ask what beef? I don't see a beef
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JeffL wrote: because we can and it looks really cool
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Fri May 20, 2011 4:56 am |
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Battlecruiser23
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
That beef is only a beef if there is something else taxing your energy that can't be turned on and off like a tractor.
A good engineer will have recovered the elect needed to deploy the second set when the first set critically needs to be scooped up. A good engineer is also one who doesn't deploy drones where aggro can switch, and the drones can be one volley'd out of existence.
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playerboy345
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
so basically the beef is that we get to power our tractors abit longer? wow, I think I'ma go sniper in C2
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JeffL wrote: because we can and it looks really cool
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Battlecruiser23
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
playerboy345 wrote: so basically the beef is that we get to power our tractors abit longer? wow, I think I'ma go sniper in C2 Nah, the beef means you can drop a second set if you don't have the regen, or some ewar guy uses an energy vampire on your ship. It's a beef for newer engineers, but a so-so for the more powerful ones like Tij. However, lower level engineers don't have the tank, gank, and or drone elect of higher ones, and must continuously swap out drones. In other words, pre-charging is only going in because JeffL thinks it *looks* cool, and because *He* can.
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playerboy345
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
I like my siggy, and I still don't understand why Jeff is so determined about implementing drone charging.
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JeffL wrote: because we can and it looks really cool
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
playerboy345 wrote: I like my siggy, and I still don't understand why Jeff is so determined about implementing drone charging.
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playerboy345
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
thecrazygamemaster wrote: playerboy345 wrote: I like my siggy, and I still don't understand why Jeff is so determined about implementing drone charging. /win now, JeffL, could you answer this question: do you NEED to add pre-charging to drones?
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JeffL wrote: because we can and it looks really cool
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
It's just the direction we've decided to go in.
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
I think you took a wrong turn. >.>
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
JeffL wrote: It's just the direction we've decided to go in. warfighter67 wrote: I think you took a wrong turn. >.> and, if it is not NEEDED why do you implement this? I have seen alot of people disagree with drone charging, it makes engineers almost completly useless for PvP, and it removes our flexibilty. right now I carry 9 different drones which include 4 sets of drones (6 of them) right now I can deploy a full whenever I want, so basically if someone in a panther decides to attack me I can drop a charge and 5 BFDs. but let's imagine I'm DGing and am using AInfernoes with a charge and/or sup prot drone, what if someone in a panther decides to attack me? what if he has a mining (if I am in a pax) or a surg (if I am in a rhino) weapon? it would simply mean the only thing I could do is scoop my drones and wait to die or suicide, before the drones are charged I will be dead. unless you can convince me that there are some huge adventages to this I fully concur with warfighter67.
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JeffL wrote: because we can and it looks really cool
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
playerboy345 wrote: JeffL wrote: It's just the direction we've decided to go in. warfighter67 wrote: I think you took a wrong turn. >.> and, if it is not NEEDED why do you implement this? I have seen alot of people disagree with drone charging, it makes engineers almost completly useless for PvP, and it removes our flexibilty. right now I carry 9 different drones which include 4 sets of drones (6 of them) right now I can deploy a full whenever I want, so basically if someone in a panther decides to attack me I can drop a charge and 5 BFDs. but let's imagine I'm DGing and am using AInfernoes with a charge and/or sup prot drone, what if someone in a panther decides to attack me? what if he has a mining (if I am in a pax) or a surg (if I am in a rhino) weapon? it would simply mean the only thing I could do is scoop my drones and wait to die or suicide, before the drones are charged I will be dead. unless you can convince me that there are some huge adventages to this I fully concur with warfighter67. Could not agree more. Jeff, implementing something because it "looks cool and we can" is not a reason.
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JeffL wrote: Not sure if the quality is really up to snuff, tbh.
JeffL wrote: Maybe you guys are right. We can leave things how they are for now and get more feedback later.
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Fri May 20, 2011 2:11 pm |
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playerboy345
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
if you have a decent reason we would love to hear it Jeff
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JeffL wrote: because we can and it looks really cool
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Re: C2 Video: Item Capacitance and pre-charging demo
playerboy345 wrote: if you have a decent reason we would love to hear it Jeff He's obviously not going to give you any more reasons. Why don't you all live with it or ragequit, and spare us the hysterics.
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