We are experimenting with something on test where AI's always get to see whatever ship just shot them as long as that ship has any added firing visibility no matter how far away or cloaked that ship is. This is to make AI's a little less stupid when they are getting hit at long range by things they can't see.

Also, we're probably going to adjust the strength of the sniper analysis a little bit. Just forewarning people.

Stronger or weaker?



Fixed it

They will only see you for as long as you have firing vis, which means this shouldnt effect Seer's at all. A sniper will be seen as long as he's firing, which means he will have to stop firing when/if the AI gets too close.

This nerf to sniper analysis; how bad is it going to be? Is it going to be a significant nerf or just a slight nerf? What i mean by a significant nerf is by cutting the rof and damage by half.

Im still not understanding why a person, sitting really far away from something and analyizing its weaknesses, would suddenly start shooting faster instead of just doing much more damage.


EDIT: Also, instead of a % display, can we have something that sounds cool like Enemy Weak Point Spotted. or such? lol

She speaks the motherflipping truth, 100%

What we have been discussing so far is reducing the RoF bonus from 100% to 50%. Not sure if it's been fully decided yet though.

Makes sense. As for the visibility thing...i dont know. I DO know that it will make soloing ubers much harder, if not impossible. Once they see you, they tend to fly over to where you are...and even if they dont, you wont be able to hold enough DPS on them to break them.

Essentially, we now need something else to hold their attention for a while...and if they cant dodge because the uber has beams, we're pretty much stuck with using a zerker for that. Ho, hum

what you need is a Decoy item that takes the interest of ai for a while.

Like in MDK

That's pretty much the whole idea with this change.

We have talked about that too but it would be a LOT more work for something that will basicly give the same effect.

Also, if the AI went flying to where the shot came from it would be extremely easy to lure AIs out. Shoot them once from 4k away and wait for them to fly out there while you have moved to a safe distance. While for example spawns wont have any idea where you are.

Seer will ofc suffer quite a bit, but as far as I can tell most of the players that are Seer nowadays won't even notice it - so it shouldn't really matter.
(afaik you don't play Klestiko)

For the dps nerf;
Why do you try to fix it over the RoF?

Atm I hit with a normal Lion V2 (without any 'goodies') for 795k damage; My next aug setup will put that to close to 700K damage - but then at over 5,5k range.
I see already how I can put 500K damage at just over 10k range; there are people out who can do much better.
So we keep this till players start to one-shot permanent drones in enemy player gals (without the bases shooting them) in masses and complain?

The fix on this side is in the same order dps wise as the now mentioned RoF nerf while keeping the higher elec cost.

The ability of AIs to see you always when you fire will put an end to most Sniper vs. AI activity especially in case of ubers. Ofc this will please the Berserkers.