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Myhn Team: Main: Doman Level: 2627 Class: Berserker Joined: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:52 pm	Re: Absentis Never fear, I'm sure with all the new Snipers the Admins will realize they have forgotten to create the low vis UZ heavy fighter that the Sniper class has needed for so long. Just as I'm sure that the Admins will realize that its not the stats that give Snipers their abilities. Its the fact that past a certain range some AI just stop caring. They will realize this before they nerf the class back to its original status. I am also confident that since its been brought to light that Zerkers have already done what Snipers are starting to do, but in 1/10 the time, that Zerkers will get another look to bring them down inline with the rest of SS. O, and if you plan on nerfing the ship. How about nerfing the price. And giving the Absentis mission chain a second mission that refunds alittle of what has been already paid. I'm sure that this suggestion will be taken under careful consideration.
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:28 pm

The Voomy One Darth Administrator Team: Main: The Voomy One Level: 1337 Class: Sniper Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:06 am	Re: Absentis Well I didnt except such a strong reaction because of the beef to the sniper skill. I also just noticed that the Juju was actually considered a little bit stronger by the balance sheet with the bonuses removed. So Im going to meet you half way and give it some stats to cleary make it better then Juju and Absconditus. Tracking +10%, Range+10%, Radar+10%, Recovery +10%, Shield +10%, Elec Temp -5%. Also note that the Absentis has a juicegen of 125 while the Absconditus only has 50. (Juicegen is built in energy recharge). _________________ For support, please create a support ticket here.
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:29 pm

jeff mc beth Team: Main: Jeff Bobbo Level: 2048 Class: Gunner Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:19 pm Location: Not where you are right now	Re: Absentis The Voomy One wrote: Well I didnt except such a strong reaction because of the beef to the sniper skill. I also just noticed that the Juju was actually considered a little bit stronger by the balance sheet with the bonuses removed. So Im going to meet you half way and give it some stats to cleary make it better then Juju and Absconditus. Tracking +10%, Range+10%, Radar+10%, Recovery +10%, Shield +10%, Elec Temp -5%. Also note that the Absentis has a juicegen of 125 while the Absconditus only has 50. (Juicegen is built in energy recharge). See, now you're still doing the wrong thing. You are giving into the players, because they want to be strong... Just fix the damn class, and if need be, stop new people obtaining the Absentis, and replace it with another ship. _________________ Javatech wrote: Battlecruiser23 wrote: I am a Troll, ignore everything I say. JeffL wrote: Are you kidding me? Our C2 music is way better than that boring garbage you linked.
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:40 pm

thecrazygamemaster Team: Main: The Crazy Game Maste Level: 1031 Class: Engineer Joined: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:15 am Location: TARDIS, Time Vortex, Main Universe, Reality, Big Bang 2, Multiverse 1	Re: Absentis The Voomy One wrote: Well I didnt except such a strong reaction because of the beef to the sniper skill. I also just noticed that the Juju was actually considered a little bit stronger by the balance sheet with the bonuses removed. So Im going to meet you half way and give it some stats to cleary make it better then Juju and Absconditus. Tracking +10%, Range+10%, Radar+10%, Recovery +10%, Shield +10%, Elec Temp -5%. Also note that the Absentis has a juicegen of 125 while the Absconditus only has 50. (Juicegen is built in energy recharge). Time to be a two - faced numbskull... Switches to happy mode YAY VOOMY YAY HAPPYNESS VOOMY FTW! ^.^ _________________ JeffL wrote: Not sure if the quality is really up to snuff, tbh. JeffL wrote: Maybe you guys are right. We can leave things how they are for now and get more feedback later.
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:41 pm

Dr Ingelbert Team: Main: Mouse Level: 1845 Class: Engineer Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:03 pm Location: Narfuk in England	Re: Absentis Oh and Voomy nerfing it doesn't give into all the players saying nerf. Think of things from both side before you start talking. Since this nerf was gonna happen I'm glad we could be met half way. _________________ I Bark Very Little But I Know How To Bite............... Meow
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:44 pm

shawn_mccall Team: Main: shawn - mccall Level: 2411 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:53 am	Re: Absentis The Voomy One wrote: Well I didnt except such a strong reaction because of the beef to the sniper skill. I also just noticed that the Juju was actually considered a little bit stronger by the balance sheet with the bonuses removed. So Im going to meet you half way and give it some stats to cleary make it better then Juju and Absconditus. Tracking +10%, Range+10%, Radar+10%, Recovery +10%, Shield +10%, Elec Temp -5%. Also note that the Absentis has a juicegen of 125 while the Absconditus only has 50. (Juicegen is built in energy recharge). Thank you that should help immeasurably to balance the class without hitting the established Snipers too hard. Gentlemen, we have admin win. Oh and Jeff it's better than nothing so hush or next time we'll get nothing. _________________ Neba wrote: BLACK PEOPLE DON'T GET RICE andezrhode wrote: goett wrote: All oly ships look way to geometrically conservative for my tastes. thats because most graphic designers are squares goett wrote: Fired bullets taste like candy.
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:44 pm

jeff mc beth Team: Main: Jeff Bobbo Level: 2048 Class: Gunner Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:19 pm Location: Not where you are right now	Re: Absentis shawn_mccall wrote: Thank you that should help immeasurably to balance the class without hitting the established Snipers too hard. Gentlemen, we have admin win. Oh and Jeff it's better than nothing so hush or next time we'll get nothing. What should I care? I don't even have the ship. Voom said himself that Sniper seemed a bit OP, yet they patched it in anyway. _________________ Javatech wrote: Battlecruiser23 wrote: I am a Troll, ignore everything I say. JeffL wrote: Are you kidding me? Our C2 music is way better than that boring garbage you linked.
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:47 pm

rand4505 Team: Main: Hooch Dealer Level: 2763 Class: Gunner Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:20 pm Location: Who is John Galt?	Re: Absentis jeff mc beth wrote: shawn_mccall wrote: Thank you that should help immeasurably to balance the class without hitting the established Snipers too hard. Gentlemen, we have admin win. Oh and Jeff it's better than nothing so hush or next time we'll get nothing. What should I care? I don't even have the ship. Voom said himself that Sniper seemed a bit OP, yet they patched it in anyway. Remember vvhat happened last time you tried to get a snip nerfed that you did not possess? STFU AND GTFO. _________________ 3 Basic types of players(quitters, losers, and winners) Choose your own fate. http://www.gbtv.com http://www.theblaze.com
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:49 pm

jeff mc beth Team: Main: Jeff Bobbo Level: 2048 Class: Gunner Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:19 pm Location: Not where you are right now	Re: Absentis rand4505 wrote: jeff mc beth wrote: shawn_mccall wrote: Thank you that should help immeasurably to balance the class without hitting the established Snipers too hard. Gentlemen, we have admin win. Oh and Jeff it's better than nothing so hush or next time we'll get nothing. What should I care? I don't even have the ship. Voom said himself that Sniper seemed a bit OP, yet they patched it in anyway. Remember vvhat happened last time you tried to get a snip nerfed that you did not possess? STFU AND GTFO. I didn't try to get a ship nerfed... And I'm not trying to get one nerfed now. My point is that the admins just can't do things logically, and fuck the player base about doing it. _________________ Javatech wrote: Battlecruiser23 wrote: I am a Troll, ignore everything I say. JeffL wrote: Are you kidding me? Our C2 music is way better than that boring garbage you linked.
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:50 pm

shawn_mccall Team: Main: shawn - mccall Level: 2411 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:53 am	Re: Absentis Yes but this is at the very least a very good start, really the only problem remaining now is to slightly nerf Analysis. Then we can move onto making zerker not retardedly OP? _________________ Neba wrote: BLACK PEOPLE DON'T GET RICE andezrhode wrote: goett wrote: All oly ships look way to geometrically conservative for my tastes. thats because most graphic designers are squares goett wrote: Fired bullets taste like candy.
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:51 pm

jeff mc beth Team: Main: Jeff Bobbo Level: 2048 Class: Gunner Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:19 pm Location: Not where you are right now	Re: Absentis shawn_mccall wrote: Yes but this is at the very least a very good start, really the only problem remaining now is to slightly nerf Analysis. Then we can move onto making zerker not retardedly OP? Remove the RoF... It's silly that a class removes RoF, and has an item/skill that also gives it. It's like giving Speed Demons range in Speed Demon Class skill, and then removing it in the Dog Fighting subskill. _________________ Javatech wrote: Battlecruiser23 wrote: I am a Troll, ignore everything I say. JeffL wrote: Are you kidding me? Our C2 music is way better than that boring garbage you linked.
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:53 pm

The Voomy One Darth Administrator Team: Main: The Voomy One Level: 1337 Class: Sniper Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:06 am	Re: Absentis Quote: Voom said himself that Sniper seemed a bit OP, yet they patched it in anyway. Im sorry but I am not yet the evil dictator of SS, I do not have the final word. The new stats on the sniper skill and the sniper analysis skill was decided by Jeff. The stats suggested by me was different. _________________ For support, please create a support ticket here.
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:53 pm

rand4505 Team: Main: Hooch Dealer Level: 2763 Class: Gunner Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:20 pm Location: Who is John Galt?	Re: Absentis @ Jeff Mc Beth found here viewtopic.php?f=9&t=40716 rand4505 wrote: jeff mc beth wrote: rand4505 wrote: So your the reason my shield monkey Assbehe+ got screwed in that regard. Lol. XD I give up on the Zebra Second's Wind argument. XD Always seemed strange anyway... As the aura... How can +20% bank for like 10 seconds help at all with healing? You'd heal me an extra 60k if it effects capships, to then have me loose that bank pretty much instantly again. Please just stop suggesting things to the devs. You are not considering all situations. My setup on my was designed for intra-system defense, i.e. DEFENDING MY GALS. With at least one base healer in each gal I have no problem and all defenders have the added protection of more bank. And shields just don't disappear instantly, they slowly tick down, unless I am mistaken cap ships are not affected by this aura, and it wouldn't matter, the second tick would not need a full 60k healing if it did. STFU GTFO. _________________ 3 Basic types of players(quitters, losers, and winners) Choose your own fate. http://www.gbtv.com http://www.theblaze.com
Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:56 pm

jeff mc beth Team: Main: Jeff Bobbo Level: 2048 Class: Gunner Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:19 pm Location: Not where you are right now	Re: Absentis rand4505 wrote: @ Jeff Mc Beth STFU GTFO. I don't see how that is relative to this? I still also don't understand how you could use that for defending bases, as the boost is gone pretty quickly again... And soon at the attackers are breaking HPS, it does absolutely nothing to help. ZSW makes sense, as I can easily see that being doable now. AB aura doesn't still, shields don't have the kind of regen that energies do. Either way, neither of them points are that relative to the Absentis. _________________ Javatech wrote: Battlecruiser23 wrote: I am a Troll, ignore everything I say. JeffL wrote: Are you kidding me? Our C2 music is way better than that boring garbage you linked.
Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:01 pm

The Voomy One Darth Administrator Team: Main: The Voomy One Level: 1337 Class: Sniper Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:06 am	Re: Absentis And we dont need anymore arguing in the dev notes. The topic has served it's purpose. _________________ For support, please create a support ticket here.
Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:03 pm

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