And why the hell should it be against the rules to be annoying? By that thinking any form of pvp should be illegal and this game would be 100% carebear. At that point I would seriously consider quitting as pvp bvb is the thing that most higher level people play this game for.

Maybe we should change the rule to 20k distance in order to not favor the defenders so much. I feel like at 20k, if the defenders try to make a defensive ring 10k out, they will start to get stretched kind of thin.

That is even worse. As you would force the newly droped kits to be in max base range, any 2 range auged base would destroy a newly droped kit. You need some kind of space where both kits would be out of range. 25-30k would do it. But if any type of max base range was changed this rule would have to change as well. Attackers must have a greater range to deploy than the defenders, it is the only way BvB can work.

Dropping two-range augged kits for that purpose would be a better use of my MFM base slots. ^_^

Or three at polar coordinates (10k,0),(10k,120),(10k,240). This would work better, Kles.

After further discussions, we think a limit of 30k would be more practical. It does less to stop the griefing aspect of putting cloaked kits way out, but it's probably still enough of a limit to eliminate the manually enforced rule and it's far enough out that it would take a major effort for defenders to try to cover everything, and even if they did, they would end up with a bunch of bases totally isolated from each other and somewhat vulnerable.

What about making it that you can lay further then 20k out but it decays depending on tech level and distance.
so like a t20 at 30k dis would take 10 hours or at 60k 5 hours etc that should give you enough time to work your way back in?

Tallon

This is overly complicated. The fix Jeff posted above yours is sufficient.

You don't need to drop a kit more than 20k out, usually. 30k is more than enough of a limit.

You could patch those holes by having some overlap in the radius in which bases may attack, but doing so to cover a very large area now means sacrificing the combined power of these bases in order to acquire area coverage. At that point the attackers could more effectively PvB the bases one-by-one since they won't have to worry about too many returning fire or healing each other at a time. Another option is to even PvB one base and deploy their own in the area that it no longer covers.

Try doing that to a base with 100+ ablatives on while the defender tows the other base further towards you.


Tallon

Meh. Opens whole new realms of trickery.

Great.

People just won't bother, and it'll be the same as it is now.



The purpose of this change is to remove a grief-y tactic involving invisible base kits. Not to include new tactics in BvBing.

Why can we not have both?

Tallon

Btw. Your red dot is covered by the regular kits in the center of the galaxy. /sigh

I don't see them being mutually exclusive.