Also, included with this should be an inbuilt +10% radar for AI vultures.

vultures are mean enough if your fighting em as sniper..they don't need more advantages.

I would say yes, it stops ai from scooping and means the boxes are ONLY loot.

a problem I have seen this uni is if you kill a condor or a vulture sometimes the loot is spread all over hell and gone.. pieces thousands of space units away from where you are..in many directions. Fast ai+ keys = fail.
trying to find a key out of 4 or so items that dropped may not give you enough time if they are 3k+ from each other and the epicenter where the critter was supposed to have died.

I see the addition of many new ai in the future and ill bet some of them are fast buggers too.

but if this is added i would have to support the suggestion of only needing to kill half to advance. people already follow, people already toss keys to hop out and back in to kill ai since gates stay open a few minutes, people already follow up a DG like idiots.

so obviously this changes little except for not risking decay of keys due to a DC,server hiccup ,zombie apocalypse or Ai loot scooping.

what about when you jump into a dg and someone has just cleared it and only 1 ai has spawned, are you saying you only need to kill that one ai to go down the level?

keep it as it is...

ok, so give them a shorter spawn timer and maybe less time inbetween spawns. Ill sign on this idea a million times, we would discover the problems and adjustments that will be needed but the idea is definately a step up from the current way things are. Ninja looters would be fun. heh maybe even ai dg raiders? pop up when you least expect them, theyd travel around like other ai but theyd pop into DGs and only be aggro to players there.

I voted "leave it as is" - but I really rather see a mix of the two. Having DGs be more varied would be a good thing.

Neurokeys as they are currently are should go; the problems are already mentioned:

- Sniper DGing being a big pain to DG with that
- disconnects
- the visibility of the keys (remember all the changes with that; no keys --> no need to 'fix' stuff over and over again)
- for low/mid lvl Seer it's a big pain to sort out which are the keys and which are just gear from the AIs (Prime example gammas) - you easily loose those cause you're full of BBGs while the AI scoop the keys

and others, but I think these are the most important ones.

I want to name just another solution for most of the named problems:

Neurokeys become a new class of item (like augs):

Different graphics, a long ( 5 - 10min) decay time (as debris), high visibility (like a gate), AIs don't scoop it

It doesn't address the disconnect issue yet.
If it would be like an unstable commod (aka think of enukes) and the keys being different for each lvl of a DG (and for each DG) it would work.

All in all I say - Neurokeys shall go.

Kill half the AI on a lvl and only the squad doing the kill is able to advance.

All other people - even team mates - cannot enter the next lvl if they're in a squad.

post is long enough - won't discuss here the pro's and contras now.

This by far is my favorite idea. ai already dont scoop augs, so it wouldnt be hard to give keysyncs some kind of keycard graphic or something and disallow ai from scooping them.

i vote "pie", hmmmm pie

/signed

While you're at it, make all of the DG AI spawn like the ones in Copper: If 2 out of 8 AI are remaining, then 6 spawn at once whenever the timer ticks. Make this include ubers and their guards. I'm not saying respawn has to be as fast as Copper though.

/me dreams of pie

Kill half AIs

I suggest that we keep using keys, though elminate the need for hunting them. i propose that when an ai is killed, the person who got the kill gets 1 key spawned in their hull. they can toss this to squad leader, etc. if they do not have room, it will drop below your ship.

Also, DGs should have a system where each time a person goes into the dg, they enter their own personal "copy" of it, meaning a new dg copy is created for every person. squads qualify as a person, if a squad member reaches the dg first and clears it, when the other people in squad get there, they are put into that squad's DG copy. this will absolutely eliminate following of people into dgs to kill them, and will take care of many issues raised here.

though you would 100% have to raise squad sizes, due to some uber runs.
(also thinking about the next UZ)