/siiiiiiiigned!!

The new visibility system is not working.


Things are far too hard to spot.

I have had a dreadnought suddenly dissapppear at short range, (I was trying to squad him at the time)

The radar display is far to cumbersome to cope with the vis/detection issue.
I suggest we revert to the system that worked and wait for C2. If C2 cannot cope with it just scrap this new (and horribly flawed system)

The trouble is that, without multiplication, many things are far too low vis. On the other hand, since i never had any vis to start with, i didn't get any boost at all on my sniper....i think it could work, but it would take a lot of tweaking. I Would vote that you temporarily switch back to the old system, and then once C2 is out, you can dedicate full time to rebalancing every vis stat in the game to something more balanced.

I don't want to go back to the old system. I think the new one is functional. Please just let me know what you think is still too high or low vis so I can make adjustments (besides asteroids).

Ok, then....you asked for it.

What I believe you have to do is go through and compare side by side every item in the game, and change their vis so in a Normal Gal, they can be seen from teh same distance, as on the original vis system. Then, it will be (Mostly) fixed.

I might be wrong though.

Debris is still too hard to see. You can detect it on radar from a long distance, but it can only be seen from a short distance away with normal radar setups.

Some AI bases that I could see fine in the past (like the one in Graveyard) are now invisible to vision and detection until you get close, but some bases that are supposed to be completely invisible all the time are easily seen even from a distance ( I made a ticket about one of those).

I still think ai's are targeting 0 vis ships from too far away.

Yeah...in C7, i had 0 vis on my sniper, WITHOUT cloaking, and when i cloaked they were shooting at me from ~100 distance...

hmm can u make creds and loot 10000 vis? cuz in a vis 0 galaxy, i cant c my loot....

Is a seer with 3 radar augs/a t20 radar/ seeing scoop etc etc really not supposed to physical see panthers unless he's directly on top of them?

I hate to say it like this, but, what you want, and what should be done are likely 2 VERY different things in this case. What you want should ALWAYS come second to what is good for the game. When a Dreadnought can TOTALLY disappear without a cloak, with a Giga GnT and loads of radioactive gear, and other gear that adds vis, you know you've messed it up, that's not good for the game. I'm not saying that you must wait until client 2 to release the visibility system, but you really need to revert it back to a system that works CORRECTLY and as expected until you work out all of the kinks of the new system. As it stands right now, radars, stealth, and visibility are beyond screwed up, the word simply does not exist to describe it.

You wanted to know what we think, there it is. Making adjustments should take place on the test server at this point, and at any point where the content/fixes/changes are not nearly perfect. As I've said before, you need a SELECTED TEST GROUP that can consistently test stuff like this so major screw-ups are not put on the main server for all to see and be forced to deal with for months at a time.

/Signed
I would also sign up for this aswell

If it gets put in, let me test the F2P stuff!