i gotta agree with lone wolf. can you imagine if everyone had to start from scratch in nexus with AI base gear only? how would people get any lvl 20 skills? can you imagine doing MS with only AI base ship/gear? i really think the ubers are fine as they are, and its just a matter of adding new ones, new skills, and new things to build. i think the hives are a step in the right direction. in response to the guy who complained he's not of use to the team, if he's a zerker and the team doesn't require his dps to do a run, he should find a shm buddy and do his own.

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Skill ubers may be somewhat fine as they are. Serengeti is far from fine.

True that. UZ can be 2 manned... with more than 1 combination of classes.

I totally agree with lone wolf.

That poor person who thought he was useless to his team because he was a zerker or a monkey has better look at other reasons why he is not wanted.

It is quite possible for smaller groups to do some of the ubers but that just means that there can be two team runs instead of one.

Doing uber runs is good for the game. If the bosses are too tough, requiring several players, runs just dont happen, people get frustrated and leave.

Right now our team chat is full of frustrated players wanting to do runs and being frustrated as getting a big enough squad is too damn hard.

I agree with lonewolf too in a way. I don't think it's wise to update and beef current content based on the power of players. Rather, I think new content should be added that's tougher than the current content.

Take Everquest as an example (the first major MMORPG I played). Instead of beefing the original dragons and tough dungeons, they added the expansion Kunark. Getting stronger in Kunark made the old world content easier to do. Then they added Velious which was really damned tough, and old world content got even easier.

That's just the natural progression. The plus side is that new players never have to worry about not being good enough to do old world content. The down side is that older players had no real reason to do old world content, and it required development of new expansions.

Consider adding new content before beefing current content, or SS will wind up in that cycle where newer players just can't catch up.

Problem is, nothing is tough atm. Emperor Shaddam Kilrathi IV, the supposed toughest boss in-game, is killed regularly, with many teams having multiple groups to get in more kills per lockout. The big games, like EQ II and WoW, can churn out new content faster than players can thoroughly overdo it.

Yeah that's the problem here. Not enough new endgame content forces devs to beef existing content in order to keep up with the endgame players, and that makes newer players perpetually lag behind. When they're finally able to take on what is currently endgame content, it will have been beefed to the point where they're unable to take it on.

It would just create a wider and wider gap between players who are already endgame and newer players who will never quite reach it.

They will join bigger teams and those teams will let them tag along on runs and they will gain experience from doing so. An endgame setup is just about earning the money to buy it outright and any1 is capable of doing that so as long as you play the game properly. There is no barrier stopping new players eventually catching up with current end game players, although it will take a while in some cases which is how it should be.

I thought about it more and you are making huge mistake Pip . Concentrate on c2 and new UZ you are making and make that one super Uber - YOu are getting game stapes back when instead making steps to add/make something new you are making old things harder . If oyu put so much effort and thought and work into c2 and new UZ etc ... as much as you put into rebalanced and 2 complete new skill trees . YOu told youll make the game better for all of us with changing the skill mechanics adn gear strength and look 1 moth into shiny new uber uni you still have same problem and guess what you cant make players any weaker so youll make Ubers more complicated!!! Look you have half of the player base playing with same content for years now - WE WILL BRAKE all variations you make with the same old gear ! You changed aug stacking (that is huge nerf) into what we have now and we are still breaking it ! Honestly the moment you menage to broken us into submission is the moment when you lose us - That will be the moment you will make this game unplayable !


So the only real thing you can do - Leave things as we have them now ( maybe beef UZ jsut a little ) so all those new ppl that started playing the game cna still see it and hurry with new UZ and beef her and then (or at the same time) work on c2 and then just game maintenance and new content creation ... Why did you make those famous balance sheets if they are worthless so fast ???

And no way that 3 characters ( all in UZ ships or equally worth ship+ ) with all best gear for that class available doing Half of UZ is sigh that something is broken ! Most of top 10 teams are only 5-10 ppl! Weaker teams are even less or more ppl with crappy gear !

First off, I'm not sure why you're addressing me directly since that stuff was posted by others, I'm just the messenger. Secondly, we're not spending time on the ubers, at least not what is mentioned in the first post. We're just putting back capacitors on them so they are as strong as they were before.

Our plan is and has always been to release new content once its created. We're trying to coordinate the launch of the new UZ and content with C2 into an "expansion" of sorts, mostly for marketing reasons.

That sounds great , Im addressing you cos you are messenger - they always get into trouble ! And you do have a say on Dev meetings so you can pass my message along . I agree UZ bosses should be stronger but plz stop trying to compete with us in this way give us new toys to play with and make it like Hive ( after 3 days in game she got beefed and now she is challenge) Something new you can beef right away if it proves to strong not making same old content stronger and stronger ... I really love this game and i worried for the path it is on . Thx for listening


What will those cap do to UZ bosses ?

NOOOOOO dont cap baron its fun one shotting him

I have beefed the vicar quite a bit and halved the build time. However he will require an additional periodic commod. Nothing difficult or expensive though.

He is ready for the next patch.

i totally agree with all of this.
to enhance this point i want you to read his post again.

Yep.