howzxabout just no t20 gear is allowed in the collo? Do it team by team or something, with the quickest to kill it getting a reward, and give a pretty good reward, enough to encourage people to get some good t19 gear beforehand. Would be fun.

I chose 4-6 characters because that is the number of people it is feasible to get from a team to do a run in my experience.

Ivelos, dont think levels 550-800 should get w20? What was the average level your character got w20? Honestly

As for the statement that it took 20+ players of that level to do bana in the begining that may have been true for the first few runs when bana was new content but getting that sort of numbers together to do bana now is not viable. There is just too much else to do.

Still I like the idea of the EVENT I think I still have a character or two without w20

Point here is that if you wanna do it bad enough there is a way.

Leveling without wep 20 after around level 750 is tough. Takes forever to kill stuff, and there a good chance of you dying first. It will probably be easier now that venu weps are T19, though.

That's not what I want to hear I need level 20 and don't want to have to wait till after 800 to get help to get it.

since when do you "Need" it? people in the old days got much higher than level 550 before they got t20 skills.

To be honest, if I don't use my jiji, I use excom (t13) and venu mag (t19) to kill stuff. Before I got the jiji, I actually used an OHL to level off of Panthers..

Meh, my perspective is rather outdated. This is how it was back before I had weps 20 on my main. We still had the old skills, and god knows how many changes have been made to stuff since then.

Back then, with old sniper, I used an LC in my porpoise (2 ares, athena, popular setup back then) to kill MF slumbers, and occasionally BGs/forgones. I was able to tank a forgone's damage (I had a modded zebra hide, it was 1337 back then, and my regen was huge), but I had to kite it for over 50k distance to kill it. That was travelling at a forgone's normal speed.....

Also, if I was fighting a BG, there was a good chance I would die before it did. Even back before the massive swarms we have today, it was common for another AI to jump in while you were fighting the first. Also, I could just get sloppy and be killed by the original BG.

Kinda wandering here, but in conclusion, people leveling their first char without wep 20 don't have access to all the wealth, knowledge, tactics and general skills that long-term players have, which is something most people seem to forget.

I don't want to be denied it because someone thinks I'm not high enough level to have it. That's all. I have the skill points saved up for my core skills to reach 20, and it would really suck for my team to tell me "sorry, you're not high enough"

Hey in my old days the porpoise was like "the" ship, and catapults were one of the best weapons you could get. Level 550 was extremely rare.