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JeffL
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Level: 1028 Class:
Sniper
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:21 am Location: Santa Clara, CA
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Some proposed beefs to Snipers
- +20% damage with physical weapons (1% per level)
- Re-scale the speed modifier from 0-100 to 0-200
- Add some sniper-only physical weapons with -speed debuffs
- (maybe) some new, small stealthy drones with point defenses and very short ranged buffing auras to range or stealth
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:32 am |
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Sodomy
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
JeffL wrote: - +20% damage with physical weapons (1% per level)
- Re-scale the speed modifier from 0-100 to 0-200 Removed
- Add some sniper-only physical weapons with -speed debuffs Sounds nice, although considering the stats of most physical weapons ingame, I would strongly suggest making the bonus 2.5-3%
- (maybe) some new, small stealthy drones with point defenses and very short ranged buffing auras to range or stealth I don't think Stealth or Range are gamebreakers for Snipers... what I would REALLY love to see are small mobile PDs with a very strong Radar bonus, but high visibility. Perhaps called: "The Spotter" as most Snipers work in teams.. the drone itself might be very high vis, but is scoopable.
Comments in bold.
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yugioh124
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Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:17 am Location: Classified
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
Personally, I think the damage modifier should be something like 50-150. You should not need to hold perfectly still, just go somewhat slowly.
Also, sniper still will have VERY low DPS (someone worked it out, it was something like +70% DPS from skills when you considered the nerf to RoF).
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:46 am |
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kilua
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
Jeff all what you said is great, the only needed thing now is remove the - RoF from skills and the + elec tampering
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:54 am |
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Sybir
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Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:16 am
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
Personally I think snipers need good, stealthy,sniper only engine the bana t20 engine is some kind of joke, its has 1k less thrust then qua vazuk does,bigger, just more turning
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:16 am |
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pip8786
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
Sodomy wrote: JeffL wrote: - +20% damage with physical weapons (1% per level)
- Re-scale the speed modifier from 0-100 to 0-200 Removed
- Add some sniper-only physical weapons with -speed debuffs Sounds nice, although considering the stats of most physical weapons ingame, I would strongly suggest making the bonus 2.5-3%
- (maybe) some new, small stealthy drones with point defenses and very short ranged buffing auras to range or stealth I don't think Stealth or Range are gamebreakers for Snipers... what I would REALLY love to see are small mobile PDs with a very strong Radar bonus, but high visibility. Perhaps called: "The Spotter" as most Snipers work in teams.. the drone itself might be very high vis, but is scoopable.
Comments in bold. What do you mean by removed?
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:55 am |
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Outcast
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Joined: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:25 am Location: England, Leeds.
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
pip8786 wrote: Sodomy wrote: JeffL wrote: - +20% damage with physical weapons (1% per level)
- Re-scale the speed modifier from 0-100 to 0-200 Removed
- Add some sniper-only physical weapons with -speed debuffs Sounds nice, although considering the stats of most physical weapons ingame, I would strongly suggest making the bonus 2.5-3%
- (maybe) some new, small stealthy drones with point defenses and very short ranged buffing auras to range or stealth I don't think Stealth or Range are gamebreakers for Snipers... what I would REALLY love to see are small mobile PDs with a very strong Radar bonus, but high visibility. Perhaps called: "The Spotter" as most Snipers work in teams.. the drone itself might be very high vis, but is scoopable.
Comments in bold. What do you mean by removed? He means the re-scale should be removed completely, so snipers suffer no negative effects for speed.
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:33 am |
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Demiser of D
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
Nah, then we'd have snipers going 350 speed, which would be broken.
20% damage boost is a bit small,i think...but thats just me. I'd make it 30-40% personally. Again, just me.
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:28 am |
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LethalLoki
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
LethalLoki wrote: Change the scaled damage to start at 20, so that 20 would give maximum damage. Aswell as increase damage overall. EDIT: 20-50 any higher and its not all that fair
Increase physical projectile speed
Give combat focus + to hull and cut it to 50% of the bonus for light fighters
Removing the scaling would now be considered broken dont do it. Sniper needs a damage beef. (IMO they should be doing dps inbetween SD and MF) I like both the drone ideas, and the thought of adding new weapons.
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:58 pm |
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Russell
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Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:26 pm Location: Feilding, New Zealand
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
Snipers need long range and very fast projectile speed or beam because of the range . To use the range they need to see the target , so they need to see things so they need very good radar or some other ability to target stealthy/long range targets.
If you give them drones you will also need to give them extra hull space.
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:44 pm |
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LethalLoki
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
Maybe a sniper only item that gives a Frame-in-Frame veiw of selected ai? That would be very cool
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:47 pm |
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Belliaum
Joined: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:57 am Location: Sweden
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
To boost sniper then need to lose the extra energy used when they fire. Someone said that sniper get 70% extra dps if you factor in their extra elect usage you see that snipers are a joke atm.
I like the idea of scaling their speed between 50 - 150 thats a great idea.
For sniper to be able to pvp add radar bonus to them or make their guns light up targets to give their targets more vis for a short time. Much like a real life sniper would "target paint" something for a missile to hit.
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:27 pm |
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SSGamer
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:24 pm
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
Definitely a projectile speed boost, though omit beams. Lasers are fast enough already. Some damage buffs (low DPS but insane DPH), and for Adum's sake, give the Ukuk an extra weapon slot and some inbuilt range and damage buffs...
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:43 pm |
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LethalLoki
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
beams arent projectiles you cant speed up how fast they travel they are instant or almost.
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:47 pm |
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Sodomy
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Re: Some proposed beefs to Snipers
pip8786 wrote: Sodomy wrote: JeffL wrote: - +20% damage with physical weapons (1% per level)
- Re-scale the speed modifier from 0-100 to 0-200 Removed
- Add some sniper-only physical weapons with -speed debuffs Sounds nice, although considering the stats of most physical weapons ingame, I would strongly suggest making the bonus 2.5-3%
- (maybe) some new, small stealthy drones with point defenses and very short ranged buffing auras to range or stealth I don't think Stealth or Range are gamebreakers for Snipers... what I would REALLY love to see are small mobile PDs with a very strong Radar bonus, but high visibility. Perhaps called: "The Spotter" as most Snipers work in teams.. the drone itself might be very high vis, but is scoopable.
Comments in bold. What do you mean by removed? I should have been more clear, I meant that I removed my comment since I misunderstood what Jeff meant at first and had to edit it out. I have no problem with the speed modifier.. although I would also like to mention I also think that if there is a way for the skill to actually increase projectile velocity via a Sniper Skill.. that might make them a class worth playing as well. There's just a really long list of things needed.. I'm actually thinking about making a Sniper my first character when I come back, so I hope it's going to be a viable class by then
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