Then just go back to the original, total open pvp. Learn the hard way like all the vets.

If someone wants to pick on noobs,they ask for help and get to meet the rest of the player base

In the end the best moderators are us the players no need for rules, we can handle this.

My enemy's loss is my gain.

I do definitely see for myself quite often how griefing is a problem. Some say it's whining which I can see, but for those players who probably don't read/access the forums or are new to the game and don't have alts to screw around on while one is being camped it could be detrimental to the flow of new players into the game. While immediately putting a "no-pvp-for-me" flag up after dying to someone may seem a bit overboard to some, to others it might seem like the best solution. However, I'd like to see a compromise made, maybe something along the lines of players who don't have 2 or more characters with a combined total level (again, this is just theory, I'm not sure if this could be coded/worked out) of about 1250, I say the second death in PvP without killing someone else (keep in mind this has to be made around the possibility of war) or by the same person twice without killing someone should then result in x amount of time-out (10 minutes? 1 hour?). More deaths by the same person (or team [depending on diplomacy with that team, again, wars]) without PvPing/killing yourself would result in a longer and longer timeout from PvP. If this could be coded, I could see how if some of the variables were changed to find a compromise how it would a good solution to the problem.

tl;dr: no timeout for dying, subsequent deaths by same person/team results in timeout, more deaths = more timeout (there would be restrictions on levels applied to)

how bout this, after you've been killed twice a little popup pops up that says, "click here to start a second character!" then they'll never get bored!

How about once you die in PvP, for 30mins after the first kill they can still attack you, if you choose to get in, but after the 30mins you have 30minutes of freedom, unless you attack them and that would clear the timer. wouldnt stop piracy, but would give people a way around it

Soo whats the solution on bases, I tried to find the answer though the pages of this topic but I couldn't find it.

If base kills you once you get 1 hour to freely scan and scout enemy galaxies (I'm guessing the PvP rule applies to PvB too) ?

Or is it going for more of a approach of separating PvE content from PvP?

+ What happened to the glory system you suggested ages ago Jeff!

Pretty sure Jeff stated that scanning was going to become a hostile action.

Kles' idea is brilliant though it would need more support since you can basically build an HQ in seconds. Maybe need to have it for a set period of time before you can freely pirate once the HQ is down?

That would put a whole new spin on griefing. As those with HQ's could attack the little guys who can't fight for space and not fear of retribution. Hell it would actually improve Pant's position right now.

As far as I saw, theres only three teams that fit that definition in WS. Aero, Mad+, and Silver Guardians. Can steamroll all three teams quite easily from a team of a minimum of pant's "power".

All the others can fight back and or have friends on much larger teams...*nudges Leo*