Make spirits faster?
Lower Tow Cost
Add more tow stations.
Make sure lower level players know and understand what towing is.


After that is finished, see how much more needs to be done.

The protection could apply to all chars on an account, so if you want to log into a different char to kill someone again, you'd need to at least pay for a second account to do it.

Also, what if the protection time was inversely proportional to a players level? Say, for example, a killed person is protected from his killer for 24 hours * 100 / (level + 100).

Another option would be to just go with a straight up PvP flag which is defaulted to "off". This flag wouldn't apply in any galaxy where you or your team holds bases, and would not protect trade slaves, perma drones, or bases.

I feel like the fundamental conflict in this issue is that, as a game where you can take and occupy real estate, there *has* to be PvP, otherwise whoever builds the bases first can just squat there without having to defend them, or whoever gets the trade slaves going on a particular trade route can just leave them there all uni with little thought or protection. But PvP in a PvE area is almost always asymmetric and is one person bullying another.

I do think that WoW does it really well (apart from the fact that you can't build bases there) in that there are PvE places where there is no non-consensual PvP, and then there are PvP places where everyone is choosing to be there, and the focus is on PvP. Our problem is that a person can be trying to do PvE and then get PvP'd against his will, which isn't fun, and unless it's an isolated incident, can ruin the game. I don't disagree with the idea in general of piracy, and "perilous being perilous", but we need to find some way of either allowing for that in a way that doesn't ruin the game for people or else physically separate out PvP and PvE.

(I also do agree theoretically with Churchill that making a total loss system like in Eve would also work, but I think it's too far from where we are now and would be too big a change. I also don't personally prefer that sort of system.)

The only two realistic solutions I can think of would be either some kind of PvP or protection flag like I'm talking about in this thread, or else to strictly separate layers out into PvP and non-PvP, only allowing building in PvP layers, and moving all PvE content into strictly non-PvP layers. Pirates would then have to roam the buildable layers looking for people, but would then have to contend with hostile bases.

That would just ruin piracy, who would go hunt ppl where bases are?

Voom I recently had a ticket open and you anwsered it. You said all is fair and i can still do content even with SP and EF and TL camping ef sanct and ef perilous.Yet now your saying it is bropken and there is a issue so why you telling me there aint a issue and to deal with it then kissing ass here? Something does need to be added for the sake of the game.I will use our fight as a example currently if i try to do any ubers in ef perilous i cant i am seen in ef sanct die outside ef perilous and am camped.Timberwolf and guaso camped me for well over 30 mins the other day.
Not everyone has hours to spend and when someone kills you and camps you alot of people have to log off and come back hours later.PVP is stoping people from geting anywere in this game.Someone on EF mentioned Pants kill him multi times in his scout ship wasting his time well how do you think i feel when EF does it to me?

Shouldn't have gotten into a war.

NO....
All pants SDs and seers goes to sol to tow because it costs around 20-30m to tow,but rhinos and cap ships costs 1b? me no understandy, but it doesnt make sense.

If you have not been a douche about the war, you are given the option of leaving pants and all PvP will cease to happen on you. There are tons of respectable teams out there. Go join one.

The formula Jeff posted is the best choice i think. A lvl 1 would receive almost a full 24hrs of protection, while a lvl 4k would receive about half an hour.

There is no problem with it. They can't force you into your ship or anything so I see no problem.

Well we have places to pvp, the arena, inside UZ ect. I like the flags for two reasons, the first is that as much as piracy is fair if you can beat em off pirates dont go after strong foes. they go after newer players who are weaker and the changes coming down the line to make midrange gear more important will only amplify the difference between a new player and someone who has been around a little wile.

the second reason is to prevent abuse. how and why? I have seen situations arise where a team is at war with not one but multiple teams simultaneously. If one team cannot fight another 1v1 its not a war, its just the one with the most allies who wins, there is no contest in pvp battles. A flag system that relegates pvp to either a time when your "flag" is on or when you are at war is sensible and easier to balance. cap the number of teams you can be at war with at any given time, restrict pvp to flags and your issues go away.

Iv seen far less issues with pirates really than i have seen large alliances simply crushing anyone who objects or tries to be competition under insane weight of numbers. Teams were capped because of large teams doing this to smaller ones.. the situation really hasnt changed much.

I like the general idea of this.

How about the duration of immunity received is based on your level? At lower levels you maybe receive 30mins and this trends to 0, or a much lower time, as you approach 1000.