Laser in PvP:
Well i've tried few times to use a Mercurian Emission in SD PvP, its actually not bad, since i did 4.75K DPS counting that i did 825~ DPH and with a possible recoil of 0.175, With a Sweeny T's Razor i do 4.9k DPS counting that i do 620 DPH with 0.125 Recoil. Tho i prefer to use a sweeny over my emission because of:
1: Elec usage
2: DPS
3: Range
4: Crit hit effect
5: Ethereal

The cost on Mercurian emission is ~10b, The market price on Sweeny T's Razor is ~15b, Also mentioning the fact that Emission cant be modded whilst Sweeny can be.

Laser in PvAI:
Some places, it's Pretty decent..
I always use it in Serengeti, i can kill a zebra in ~8 seconds with it, but it has a weak point where it has a Low DPE comparing the EPS and the Average DPH on most AIs.

Also another thing, the Critical hit effect on laser weapons is USELESS!! -5% Shield regen for few seconds is Nothing either pvp or pvai, Change it to -10-15% and it would at least be useful somewhere.

reiterate: yerp



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i kind of like idea of an energy sucking damage type, dps needs a bump but maybe not with diffuser overhaul. Don't forget the crit for laser type is -50% regen on shield, which is highly undervalued.

maybe add a size 20k wtf dps energy-suck-laser for bs's???

Actually, i was the one that created the crit hit effect chart on the wiki, and i'm STILL not 100% sure what exactly it does. In my testing, i got roughly 50% decrease, but in an alternate test i had NO decrease and in another test I had a 100% decrease. Crits are really confusing

And if you nerf vollies like that, you'd better make a better higher tech version, or i'll probably cry

That is a huge pandoras box right there...

changing something as integrated as the way diffusers work will ripple through a ton of different stuff and cause either a lot of problems or a lot of rebalances...

-ERMAN

who we gonna blame when this thread gets diffs nerfed!

If you do this, you may put in Volis for higher levels.
Which won't work. One T20 Lazer Voli cannot possibly have the same soak for MF Rs, and Emp.
Leave as it is.

Lazer is only used for Bana, KKK and MF R Grinding. Only by my Zerk, only with MTs.
Never saw it as an alternative damage type really, just an annoying one to carry for certain occasions.

Bana?

I think the primary weakness of beam-lasers is their DPE. Alot of PvAI these days is extremely weighted towards having very high DPE values, due to the low energy potential in uber zones with no suns... No1 in their right mind is going to use a .33 dpe, low dps beam weapon for... for anything really. Low dpe means its out for PvAI, low dps and laser damage makes it useless in PvP. Although, ares sapper @ 1k range just to outrange your foes has potential i suppose... But thats more of a function of its range.

I'm curious, though it won't be a measure of the actual usefulness of laser beams it would give you an idea of player sentiments towards the same, if you could get a breakdown of what laser weapons people actually have equipped in game at a given time. My guess is you would find MT's 5x above all others... with reaver laser coming in second. Because its "common knowledge" that lasers suck. Which isn't necessarily correct but I do think the balance sheets might put too much weight behind their beam nature.

I just woke up. MS, KKK and MF R Grinding, was thinking about Bana Lazer Diff at the time.

Jeff, if i may add my 2 cents, Pulses aint that hard to aim whit and some Lasers/beams are quite hard to hit whit unless its a target the size of Emp or Massif3. how about making some Laser type pulses?

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Ai base bought voltile laser diff want to make laser more usefull then make laser resis harder to get