2 slave slots if there tech 1...or 2

That's off the table (the tech limit).

Hooray! Now as long as my nooby little FC alt with 3 slaves doesn't get massively nerfed I'm happy

Heh, atleast im a solo player with t4 gear on a rod+ so im ok I guess.

Wait... No moar mags on zebucarts? EVIL!

...sounds good!

* Trevor's idea. Split the skills so that the current RC is trading and make a new higher cost one like Sod says. Swarms will still be broken, but only available to higher levels.

* Limiting tech levels will really only hurt trading slaves, as Sod says still broken with swarms.

* Law of Diminishing returns as the number of slaves is increased. there is already some logic that more slaves is harder for the player to control so make the skill do this hard wired to balance the swarms. Again an issue with trading slaves getting a nerf. Graduating just the bonuses on just the combat slaves would be a much better fix.

If the main issue is dps/burst dps then maybe just graduate the damage bonus as the slaves are still very fragile.

^That is the only way i can see getting balance out of this.

* ahh new post by Devs nvm, I am satisfied.

These were practically exactly my suggestions, although we did go over a number of ideas. Kudos to the Admins for letting me give a bit of input face to face, kind of. I'm quite happy with the result, as Swarming is still possible, although I will lose a few slaves.

Hopefully if everything is not 100% settled yet, mayeb we can work out a few more kinks

Why not just eliminate slaves altogether ?

that way you wouldnt have to rebalance them all the time ...

hell, why not abandon SS altogether? then they wouldn't have to rebalance anything at all!

Sounds good to me, seeing how my F2P alt can squeeze 2k DPS with Ares lasers .

Thank you for setting aside time to explain me that .

I just heard /saw aperently what a person can do in perfect condition and took it for a fact . No exp with gunners here ...
Thx!

Admins trying to rebalance again...just make the game more unbalanced...

Good thing I quit

admins phail at rebalance.

Went from OP DM to even more OP FC...

Before criticizing too harshly, try making your own game and balancing it.

It's not an easy task.

This makes me think of the idea of government intervening in public affairs. They try to fix one thing, but end up making things 10 times worse. I gotta say admins, or dev team, or whoever is adding and taking away from the game; you guys do a good job sometimes, but if you're going to balance something, make sure you get everything spic and span first. Don't go on a whim and balance things every once in awhile that you see fit. You already screwed with rags, giving them a knockback weapon, and swarms that when they go afk after deciding to travel a long distance, they die andend up even stronger players lose some things, you screwed with basils making them have too much range and giving them a nice effect with their laser and that germ of theirs. God knows what else you did. But...I digress, I know you guys are working on C2, at least I hope you are, so I can understand if you can't fix the mistakes you made; but if you can, give us p2p's an ear and at least give us some satisfaction we're being heard and these things are being looked into. I saw that the swarms are being looked into, but what about rags and the incredible range of the basils. It's been plenty of months and nothing has been done about the rags...Is it going to be the same way with the basils as well?

Edit: Yea, it would be difficult to balance a game, but even the most moderate knowledgeable(sp) person knows that to balance something, you need to get everything else perfect as can be, and not to give something too much and give it an incredible beef. By balancing our gear, it seemed that we have become weaker in a sense.