I am not sure if i have posted such a topic before, but anyhow, I feel like typing and improving ny typing skill on phone ..
Who does think that today's youth might manage to remain immortal with the help of rejuvenation(which might be researched with the help of cloning technologies)
/argue please?
Why do you think it will hapen? Or why do you think it won't?

Ofcourse it will be possible further down the line. *possibility wise*

However I doubt western governments would allow this due to the population crisis. The earth can currently not sustain the population, (I am a Neo-Malthusian on this matter xD) therefore a population control like the one child policy in China will most likely be implemented soon, and therefore immortality or too much of an extention of life would not be allowed.

I believe there is someone currently whose cells are not ageing propperly, her cells are being used to investigate the potential of this immortality factor.

She lacks part of the gene which has the Heyflick limit (although this is related to why cancer occurs) which means her cells continue to divide through Mitosis. *I think .. something like that*

The only problem with this is mutations which could occur during the Interphase of Mitosis. Basically she could develop genetic mutations if she were to live hundreds of years xD

Lol nice, so she would become a mutant In say 200 years?
Anyhow, unless Europe is going to descend into a police state, like America is (or at least was), Immortality will be allowed as otherwise protests would erupt all throughout the world because people would see it as an infringement of their human rights.. don't you think so?

If there's ever a way developed through science of becoming "immortal", the chances of it being provided to the public would be next to nothing, such a thing would be more of a curse rather than being beneficial.

Firstly if everyone became immortal than the world would very quickly overpopulate. Reminds me of the movie Bicennery Man, Robot gets build, some glitch causes it to have emotions, it works for 200 years to become as close to human as possible and finally get declared as a human.

Immortality is possible now.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/2009/#

Summary:

Telomerase is an enzyme. It protects the chromosomes within cells. Over time, it is whittled down as the cells replicate. It is the limitation factor of how many times a cell can replicate.

Cancerous Cells continuously produce this Enzyme, which basically means Cancer is Immortal, if you let it live that long.

My notes: If Humanity could just tap into the ability to produce more Telomerase, but with an artificial limitation to prevent over-replication, then Humans can become immortal.

On overpopulation: Is Outer Space finite? We have the means to reach space, cheaply. So why haven't we started work on Space Elevators, Magnetic Launch Catapults, and Floating Helium Launch Facilities?

If NASA got the same funding as our Military, we'd have a United States Colony on TITAN by now, which is a fucking long way away.

On my views of Immortality if I could get it: Get to continue playing SS.

This is Conner McCloud of the clan McCLoud, your arguments on immortality are now invalid.

You dolt. You didn't read a word I said.

We have magnetic catapults. Modern Aircraft Carriers and Linear Induction Motor Rollercoasters use magnetic catapults.

Yes, such catapults require large amounts of electricity to function. Is it that hard of a thing to hook new ones up to nuclear reactors like the ones on our Carriers?

It currently costs roughly 12k USD to launch 1 pound into orbit. Use a magnetic catapult big enough to put a Soyuz sized payload into orbit and the costs turn into 400 dollars per pound. Other alternative ways to get the payload into orbit have vastly reduced costs.

But as I said, if NASA had the Military's budget, we'd be that fucking far outside earth's orbit. NASA, as of 2010, had a budget of 17 billion. The Military, also of 2010, had a budget of 700 billion. See the difference?

So sounds like we need to invent some new ways to fly, eh?
Oh, and there is far more oil than you would expect. This is besides the fact that spacecraft usually use liquid oxygen/hydrogen. Which produces... water.

And that is trillions upon trillions upon trillions of stuff in the ocean. Wait, we don't know how to use an electrical current running through water to split the three atoms apart?

Shit. I suppose we asked a genie to make our space fuel?

Yes. Earth bound warfare is a much greater priority than following your hopeless endeavour to find another habitable planet.

When we can simply forcibly implement one child policies in 3rd world countries and improve medical care to make them NIC's, rapidly advancing their level of technology to combat the population crisis.



HYDRAZINE = THE BAIN OF THE EXISTANCE OF ANY UK AS LEVEL CHEMISTRY STUDENT.

3 N2H4 → 4 NH3 + N2

Ammonia = bad for the environment!