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tariq_1984
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Visorak wrote: tariq_1984 wrote: Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. China is more civilized than USA can ever hope to be. It is not a nation of conquerors. Enlighten me then, what is communism?
Because Capitalism is doing so much better. For your information China's leading party is called the Communist Party only in name. If you study Chinese history you'll find that China's history is quite Communist up until a turning point where they created an incentive for the rice farmers and that year yielded the highest output to date. I am currently living in China (but Canadian) and I can tell you that there isn't the slightest hint of Communism anywhere in China. It currently holds the largest free market in the world (possibly 2nd largest next to India) and the largest amount of 'Mom and Pop' stores of any nation in the world. Americans are conditioned to associate Communism with bad evil things, the color red, and furry hats but in essence it is a much nobler system than Capitalism. The problem is it doesn't work. I'm not exactly sure what your point was to be honest but I can definitely tell you that in essence, China is not Communist.
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While Government System and Economic System go hand in hand, they are not one and the same.
You can have Communist govs and Free Market Eco countries like China.
Or, you can have Democratic Free Market like USA. Or Socialist Free Market like UK. Or Democratic Command Economy like Belarus.
While Democratic countries tend to be Free Market and Free market tend to be democratic, it is never 100% correct that Free Market and Democratic are always together and anything else is not democratic or free market.
Therefore, China IS a Communist GOVERNMENT. China has a Free Market ECONOMY, though.
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so bascially the chinese are facists?
thats what you're left with when you remove the communist economic system
you get a government with all the controls of a nazi style dictatorship
but hey, at least they're honest. in the US, most people dont even know they have no rights left.
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landswimmer wrote: most people dont even know they have no rights left. This is one of the reasons I want to live in the EU.
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EU is worse then the USA we just aren't as aware of it. The ACTA is in full force now in many countries and that means all our rights have been stripped away in the name of copyright. Freedom fighters are spinning in their graves all over Europe. We defeated Hitler but not his ideas.
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ACTA is already in force in the US...
EU parliament turned it down last time.
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Glenn Beck is a racist.
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The cry of the person with no evidence, facts, or reason.
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The propaganda is just as heavy in the US as in communist states, I can tell you that. For all we know, all these statistics on foreign military strength could be fake. Perhaps even, Haiti could be the actual world power but all of our governments are working together to conceal the truth.
If you guys read 1984 by Orwell you would understand what I'm talking about.
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rand4505 wrote: The cry of the person with no evidence, facts, or reason. http://newsone.com/nation/alisonhines/g ... st-quotes/Hi.
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rand4505
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You seriously think taking things out of context and presenting them as the whole truth is going to prove anything?
You sir have been drinking the cool aid.
Referencing my above link, he is putting that song INTO context.
Notice the difference, INTO and OUT OF context. That in its self tells a lot about character.
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tariq_1984 wrote: Visorak wrote: tariq_1984 wrote: Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. China is more civilized than USA can ever hope to be. It is not a nation of conquerors. Enlighten me then, what is communism?
Because Capitalism is doing so much better. For your information China's leading party is called the Communist Party only in name. If you study Chinese history you'll find that China's history is quite Communist up until a turning point where they created an incentive for the rice farmers and that year yielded the highest output to date. I am currently living in China (but Canadian) and I can tell you that there isn't the slightest hint of Communism anywhere in China. It currently holds the largest free market in the world (possibly 2nd largest next to India) and the largest amount of 'Mom and Pop' stores of any nation in the world. Americans are conditioned to associate Communism with bad evil things, the color red, and furry hats but in essence it is a much nobler system than Capitalism. The problem is it doesn't work. I'm not exactly sure what your point was to be honest but I can definitely tell you that in essence, China is not Communist. I want you to know that in my school we had a class that taught us about different types of government. We learned about communism and we acquired an attitude that it is a good idea on paper but does not work when applied.
And in world history, we learned about China and the policies that changed it in the 20th century, notably the fact that it has slowly been shifting to a capitalist, free market system.
Both of the above classes were mandatory.
Whatever you claim that Americans are conditioned to believe is bullshit. Only people who were raised during the cold war have a negative attitude towards communism. But we are not 'conditioned' like that in school.
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rand4505 wrote: You seriously think taking things out of context and presenting them as the whole truth is going to prove anything?
You sir have been drinking the cool aid.
Referencing my above link, he is putting that song INTO context.
Notice the difference, INTO and OUT OF context. That in its self tells a lot about character. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbg604XqPYhttp://www.npr.org/2011/02/27/134104527 ... d-get-hurthttp://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201102140037http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010140032http://gawker.com/5516642/jon-stewart-e ... televisionhttp://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news ... omparisionhttp://i.imgur.com/gOtYv.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/oj9Gk.png![Image](http://i.imgur.com/9mbv8.jpg) Seriously, fuck you if you're going to be ignorant.
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I did not see any racism in this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbg604XqPYBeck just voicing what people were thinking. The second, F.F.P., Seriously? Do I need to explain the weather underground to you, thier history, and where they are now? And you call ME ignorant? No racism in the third link, but that entire episode, not just the clip that is taken from, is one you should see in the entirety. The forth link, not applicably to the discussion, and why would asking for donations to anything be wrong in any way??? Isn't that like saying 1 + 1 = 2 when we are discussing Euclidean geometry? While yes he did ask for donations what the hell does it have to do with the topic at hand? I'm just going to call that a garbage link for now. The video for the 5th link wont load atm will try that again, but off its face, should I take anything Jon Stewart says seriously? The sixth, every one of those quotes is taken out of context. Unless your airing the shows they come from, your wasting my time. The seventh, if you watch the clip not just the excerpts quoted there, he was drawing parallels with how the camp was doing the same thing as HY, both promoting government worker party agendas and socialism. Again taken completely out of context. See a pattern? The pics I just lol'd at. Yup he must be an asshole gave that organisation the single largest donation they have ever had. Just for you you can do what all the other articles did and just quote the following, "Yup he must be an asshole", see there how taking it out of context is your iWin. Do you really think you fool anyone?
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