At lower techs you have problems with hull space more than at any other point in the game.

At lower techs, ruin energies are hardly worth the effort to get, let alone use.

Suggestion: Make lower tech fuel energies use less fuel over a time period. For example, a single nuke might last for 5 minutes instead of two, like normal.

And who the hell uses enuke powered energies at TECH THREE?!?

Oh there is, some people want bank too.

Iirc Thejernyman or what he was named used Enuke energy both on his Enforcer and Fwing F2P

You just described some bored ptp's fully decked out ftp. He probably fed it enuked with a ward or something...

There really isn't so much hullspace available at that level.

Back in '07 and '08 I used nuke waste energies as a f2p. Problem was they took up too much space (leaving me jackshit for DG loots, etc) and they completely ruined them with the big re-balance (they also increased massively in size). So yea...

/signed

Size seems to outweigh Fuel, Skill lock, Hull lock, and build costs. Combined.

Yeah, which is wierd... Skill and hull lock I can see for the simple reason that those are just there to prevent abuse. Build cost, well, admins just don't want you to have nice things. But the cost of the fuel using vs the fuel producing one is 1.5 times more expensive for fuel using. For an ignorable increase in bank. I'd only use it to charge a bank set up faster.

I'd love to see something for big ships to use, but that's not what the size increase does, admins. It doesn't just limit the items to big ships,

edit: 6 -> 1.5
>.<

Imo.

More advanced ruins (energies) should be the same size as previous levels on the same tech, while getting increased bank, regen, the same bonus as previous versions, and using the new fuel.



Very few lower tech advanced fuel ruins are extracted because:

1. Size. Big Energies don't fit well on small low tech ships.

2. Fuel. Without an alt that can supply the more advanced fuels, people tend to not be able to use the energy.

3. Ease of Obtainment. The people who can extract more than one won't use the energies because they are using things like PRE's and VJOE's. The people who would want to use or can use, cannot afford to buy from others, or just cannot find such energy to extract.

3a. Random ruins means things like Mzungu Clash can appear in DF250 galaxies where teams like Mad+ and Traders build. No one on those teams would want to use a T3 energy. All of them have EE18+.

NiCads are very fine, especially the higher tech ones. I got more than 1 alt that uses them on bulk+ slaves. All it takes to make them very good is solar panels and hestia augs.
(73k bank and about 230 reg(near hot suns) on lvl 200 alt, enough to do 3-4 DGs in a row)(But not broken, because those slaves are fat and 1.2k hull is used up)