I know Jeff has been wanting it done for awhile, but people who like to secrets oppose it. Therefore, make it so that when 5 of any item is attained by players, its stats get added to the wiki. Why? Teams still get an advantage if they get the item first because if it's a rare item, they still have time to keep the secret to themselves. The wiki has not been updated very often in a long time due to Simon deciding that he wasn't our slave.

Thoughts?

How about an in-game option to add stats of items you own to the wiki directly?

That would be awesome.

Dunno why I wrote a "to".

Anyway, no matter whether or not the stats are readily available through an official wiki, people are always going to try to record information about the game. Before the Star Sonata Wiki, there were the Lyceum Archives. All that Enk's suggestion or my suggestion would do is make it easier to share this information because it's going to be done anyway. Besides, this game is ENTIRELY about statistics and drama. You don't just fuck around with random augmenters and get something good. Wikis help newbies and old players alike because it makes it so that they do not have to document everything on their own or just take stabs in the dark.

Titan...

My suggestion is to have a button in game to commit any given item you possess to the wiki. It would be a time-saving device only.

I know, I know. I'm just somewhat bitter over the whole item balancing and grind fest skill tree. Players would go on the wiki and go: "hey, I can skip electrical engineering until t6". That's why players were skipping content, and now look at it. We might as well just use the level up points to permanantly increase character stats based on a formula of some sort. It's what the balance sheets do. Sure, there are variations, but I'm sure we could just switch between heavy armor 4 and light armor 4.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind it if a player could build their own in-game encyclopedia of items and ship. You know, like the map used to be kept, nonserver-sided. But, anything that lets something get so bad that the admins have to nerf skillpoints to make players use content is just...

I actually believe much the opposite. Who wants to spend lots of time looking for better items of their tech when they could be spending that time leveling and getting better AI base gear just a few techs higher?

Letting players know that items exist is a HUGE factor in making the game, the other part being getting those items to those players. With that in mind, I agree with this suggestion 100%

I like this idea, having it connected to the maingame is important too, the only thing worse than having something mission on wiki, is something with the wrong stats on wiki. But have it that the stats are only able to be added by people iwth the gear, if they want it added.

i disagree, partly because it would basicly require us to lock the wiki from players (cant have players changing the structure if the code depended on it),
Secondly, because the wiki is by definition, player managed. If we wanted it to have all the items stats exactly and instantly, we would just have it read them directly from the content data , then it wouldnt be a wiki, but a database.


So yea, an ingame "add to wiki" button wont happen, if only due to all the complications and limitations that would ensue.

But some players actually change the wiki to show the wrong stats. When the ZT stats got onto the wiki, some dodo from Pants changed it.

The guy quit when SBP crushed Pants, but the only reason you'd delete the stats was if you or your team had one.


I'd rather have a wiki locked from players, if they could be sync'd for 5 or so items in existence for adding to wiki. How many VJOE's exist exactly?