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reyjalrmm Team: Main: TheShaftofDiscipline Level: 2570 Class: Berserker Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:28 pm	Re: BattleSphere erman wrote: I think its silly that is has an engine in the first place... It has to have something that makes it turn for non-full tracking beam weapons and "projectile" weapons. _________________ All your base are belong to us. (They set us up the bomb!)
Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:00 pm

erman Member Team: Main: ERMAN Level: 3306 Class: Speed Demon Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:27 am Location: Chicago, USA	Re: BattleSphere reyjalrmm wrote: erman wrote: I think its silly that is has an engine in the first place... It has to have something that makes it turn for non-full tracking beam weapons and "projectile" weapons. then the engine should have a modifier on it that gives -100% thrust. -ERMAN _________________ "I reject your reality, and substitute my own." "If I were an enzyme, I'd be DNA Helicase so I could unzip your genes."
Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:23 pm

playerboy345 Team: Main: playerboy345 Level: 2035 Class: Berserker Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:25 am Location: The Netherlands	Re: BattleSphere zhuang281 wrote: 5 Heph skin augs Rofl. _________________ JeffL wrote: because we can and it looks really cool The Voomy One wrote: Quote: Runescape, Allows you to change your name every 30 days. Runescape sucks so it doesnt count
Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:00 am

TheKC Team: Main: TheKC Level: 5 Class: None Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:44 am	Re: BattleSphere HitmanCaius wrote: chewbacker wrote: As things stand now a BS has the same negative mining resists as a t 20 BASE. This is intolerable. Also the engine is shit. Either make the Engine worth a damn and give it more speed and leave the resists alone OR leave the engine as is and beef the resists by a significant amount. (To mining only). The ship is slow so it takes every hit that comes it's way. I am not asking or suggesting that it should be able to tank an Ada kit but that it can't be one or two shot by a seer. It was built for battle but is totally useless against anything with mining weapons. Leo The 5 Aug slots more than compensate for the ship's mining weaknesses and the crapy engine. EDIT: it is a cheap version of the Hm. any idea of aug stacking ? 5th aug slot does not compensate for anyhting, yes having 2 more aug slots more then all other t20 uz ships (excpet pantha) + the hull boost makes up for their crappy movement and weekness, but even back then barely anone used it but for PvAI, cause there you can avoid mining damage. changing the mining weekness from -150% to 40% along the line would not even change there anything, but compared with a t21 ship, with even better resi, and 4 aug slots, a BS is a joke . anyways, it owns as a travelship! ;D
Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:31 am

HitmanCaius Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:25 pm Location: Romania-Bucharest-Unu Mai-Nr 88	Re: BattleSphere TheKC wrote: HitmanCaius wrote: chewbacker wrote: As things stand now a BS has the same negative mining resists as a t 20 BASE. This is intolerable. Also the engine is shit. Either make the Engine worth a damn and give it more speed and leave the resists alone OR leave the engine as is and beef the resists by a significant amount. (To mining only). The ship is slow so it takes every hit that comes it's way. I am not asking or suggesting that it should be able to tank an Ada kit but that it can't be one or two shot by a seer. It was built for battle but is totally useless against anything with mining weapons. Leo The 5 Aug slots more than compensate for the ship's mining weaknesses and the crapy engine. EDIT: it is a cheap version of the Hm. any idea of aug stacking ? 5th aug slot does not compensate for anyhting, yes having 2 more aug slots more then all other t20 uz ships (excpet pantha) + the hull boost makes up for their crappy movement and weekness, but even back then barely anone used it but for PvAI, cause there you can avoid mining damage. changing the mining weekness from -150% to 40% along the line would not even change there anything, but compared with a t21 ship, with even better resi, and 4 aug slots, a BS is a joke . anyways, it owns as a travelship! ;D As i said it is a cheap version of a Hm. It is still a really great ship, and it does great in anything but pvp.. and RP. It is more of a support ship as any class but sniper or zerk. This ship ought to be for the combat classes actually, as its name features Battle =p _________________ JeffL wrote: "Come have sex with me in space, my lord". The Salty One wrote: "Hur Hur someone 20X my level in a massive dreadnought... POKE"
Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:40 am

Battlecruiser23 over 9000! Team: Main: Ghost Commander Level: 1138 Class: Berserker Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:36 pm	Re: BattleSphere Glass Cannon is the word when you put a sniper in a BS. _________________ Axis Industries
Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:51 am

anilv Member Team: Main: enkelin Level: 3002 Class: Speed Demon Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:28 pm	Re: BattleSphere erman wrote: reyjalrmm wrote: erman wrote: I think its silly that is has an engine in the first place... It has to have something that makes it turn for non-full tracking beam weapons and "projectile" weapons. then the engine should have a modifier on it that gives -100% thrust. -ERMAN Or... just give it literally zero thrust. But that would make it even worse in PvP as you saw last night. By the way, -100% to any stat has a tendency to break things since it calls for division by zero. _________________ (DefQon1) use a Rhino reconstruotereatarerer - (Pasta) I need to figure out how to get rid of this UrQa Suqqa Ukuk (Bluenoser) Put your finger in your mouth and gag reflex should do the rest
Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:43 am

goett Team: Main: goett Level: 2157 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:36 pm	Re: BattleSphere Bs gets rocked by tsunamis. Oly it's alright but need good squad to survive pos. Easier taking a dread or pbf monk for aura currently. Bs is awesome. Needs no changes. ( T21 death star!! )
Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:17 pm

SkyTitan Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:12 pm	Re: BattleSphere anilv wrote: By the way, -100% to any stat has a tendency to break things since it calls for division by zero. mmm... I disagree. There is a way to calculate all of those aug effects with fewer steps and no need for division. Not that difficult for Jeff to go in and swap the formula out, as was demonstrated by the aug nerf. Anyways, leave the battlesphere as is. The existance of battle [ship without an engine] anything started with Atlum. Basicly, the story is that thatchs at one time could recieve 100% resists with stacking diffusers. One glance from Atlum, and poof! no more. Not sure on details with weapon slots but, basicly, the existance of battle spheres and battle thatches is a work around for (one of) the most broken thing(s) in game. Long story short: anilv posting about zero reminded me of Calypso and I felt compelled to share some SS history. _________________ Gaffateip wrote: I love ss forums. I wonder what percentage of users wear a safety helmet to eat breakfast. DITKA wrote: [s]I'd like some proof that you guys are males[/s] might be a bad idea nvm
Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:19 pm

Griffin Team: Main: Stabberz Level: 2153 Class: Gunner Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:55 am	Re: BattleSphere Although I'm not familiar with C++ at all, wouldn't it be easy to make a fix to the code? Such as: If stat <= -100 { stat = -99; } How I wish I knew how the coding worked. :/ _________________ Blue Dwarf wrote: In space, no one can hear you cha cha cha. Last edited by Griffin on Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:49 pm

anilv Member Team: Main: enkelin Level: 3002 Class: Speed Demon Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:28 pm	Re: BattleSphere The problem is that -X% is treated as -X/(1-X)% when compared with other bonuses. For example, -20% is cancelled by +25%. In particular, -100% would only be cancelled by +infinity%. You could always code in something to catch -100% modifiers and set stuff to zero manually, but why would you bother? _________________ (DefQon1) use a Rhino reconstruotereatarerer - (Pasta) I need to figure out how to get rid of this UrQa Suqqa Ukuk (Bluenoser) Put your finger in your mouth and gag reflex should do the rest
Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:00 pm

Utumno Member Team: Main: Utumno Level: 20 Class: None Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:53 pm Location: South-Western Germany	Re: BattleSphere paxiprime wrote: ummm, KC brings his support DM BS to oly often.. ... And KC does Olympus runs on a daily base. ummm, ... no wait I just remembered, not daily, weekly! ummm, ... no wait wrong again it wasn't weekly but ... meh nvm you already get my point. The BS is not a cheap HM - why on earth would you get such an idea??? They are different concepts of gameplay for a (healing) shm.
Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:20 pm

HitmanCaius Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:25 pm Location: Romania-Bucharest-Unu Mai-Nr 88	Re: BattleSphere Well the BS can't move. The Hm can. a plus for the Hm. BS has 5 Aug slots. But isn't a freighter. Even so the 5th Aug slot can compensate a bit for not being able to use a RR. a plus for the Hm still. The Hm can use t21 augs. That's the deccisive advantage. BS is close in strenght with the Hm. It also has a nice 100% shield bonus. _________________ JeffL wrote: "Come have sex with me in space, my lord". The Salty One wrote: "Hur Hur someone 20X my level in a massive dreadnought... POKE"
Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:37 pm

Battlecruiser23 over 9000! Team: Main: Ghost Commander Level: 1138 Class: Berserker Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:36 pm	Re: BattleSphere Battle Sphere in no way can be compared to the HM in a "This or that" comparision. The BS is a support-oriented Capital Ship. The HM is a full on combat freighter. _________________ Axis Industries
Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:47 pm

reyjalrmm Team: Main: TheShaftofDiscipline Level: 2570 Class: Berserker Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:28 pm	Re: BattleSphere Battlecruiser23 wrote: Battle Sphere in no way can be compared to the HM in a "This or that" comparision. The BS is a support-oriented Capital Ship. The HM is a full on combat freighter. winks at Church amen. Fortunately for us there are still end game noobs in this game. _________________ All your base are belong to us. (They set us up the bomb!)
Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:29 pm

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