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andezrhode3 Team: Main: Prommilypicklesomnom Level: 3207 Class: Engineer Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:41 am	Re: Trqansference weapons. nom vampires ? thecrazygamemaster wrote: This would be horribly broken with bosses, unless it only gave you a % of the shields eaten. Step 1: Equip 5 weps Step 2: Warp into Emp Step 3: Fire infinitely onto emp, draining shields and healing yourself, negating anyone else in the squad unless the level happens to outdps a zerker (YEAH RIGHT) Step 4: Repeat 3/?????? Step 5: Solo Emp Profit! 1. Can't MF Transes. 2. Would be shm locked. 3. ????? 4. Owned
Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:58 am

Blue Dwarf Content Dev Team: Main: Blue Dwarf Level: 61 Class: None Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:39 pm	Re: Trqansference weapons. nom vampires ? Battlecruiser23 wrote: Fuzz ship: +100k soak to all damage types, plus their 99.999% resists, and an adum's blocker and a shield that has 100k regen per second. So in other words, you need 100m dps to break its regen. Let alone finding one that has a regen aug. And if theres a player that manages it, and not report, Ban hammer crashes down. Fuzz ships don't have any soaks, or 99.99% resists, and I don't think they have 100k RPS shields (Adum's isn't that high, it's on the wiki). Quote: So, to balance this. Trans Power/Eff won't affect Vampire Per Second(VPS). Damage and Resist would, like a normal self damaging weapon. But it drains your target's shields to a minimum of 1(cannot actually kill target with Vampire), if you break its regen. You also cannot heal very well, because you use DPS augs instead of HPS augs like a normal monkey. So in the end, you're a hybrid of a shm and a regular dps class, like a Zerk. Zerks have sucky healing and regen capability. Transference Power is just +damage but for only transference damage. Transference efficiency I think would work against you in such a situation. Transference resistance would work against you for this too. anilv wrote: Could use to kill Fuzz ships. We can give AI like that Atlum Blockers, not sure if the block stopping you from healing AI just takes into account damage type or just the amount of damage you'd do. I might make one (locally) to see what it's like. _________________ "They've taken Mr. Rimmer. Sir, they've taken Mr. Rimmer!" "Quick, lets get out of here before they bring him back!" Support
Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:32 am

Battlecruiser23 over 9000! Team: Main: Ghost Commander Level: 1138 Class: Berserker Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:36 pm	Re: Trqansference weapons. nom vampires ? Blue Dwarf wrote: Battlecruiser23 wrote: Fuzz ship: +100k soak to all damage types, plus their 99.999% resists, and an adum's blocker and a shield that has 100k regen per second. So in other words, you need 100m dps to break its regen. Let alone finding one that has a regen aug. And if theres a player that manages it, and not report, Ban hammer crashes down. Fuzz ships don't have any soaks, or 99.99% resists, and I don't think they have 100k RPS shields (Adum's isn't that high, it's on the wiki). Thats why it's a suggestion? In the suggestion forum? _________________ Axis Industries
Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:12 am

yugioh124 Team: Main: yugioh Level: 1854 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:17 am Location: Classified	Re: Trqansference weapons. nom vampires ? biggee531 wrote: yugioh124 wrote: ShMs are for healing, not killing. If they want to level, they go DGing with a buddy, or MC. Almost noone (other than level 3ks that heal level 500s in MF reaver DGs) plays ShM main, it's a class that's made after you already have another endgame char. It has a clear and useful role, and is more important than any other class for group content. It doesn't need more offensive power, their slaves can already be quite impressive. So FC's get their cake and can eat it too and that's how it should stay? If you want to kill stuff with slaves, you go FC. If you want to heal, you go ShM. Just because ShM gets a bonus to slaves doesn't mean the two classes should be comparable. _________________ Dorin Nube wrote: Nipples aren't the only danger here.
Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:24 am

Battlecruiser23 over 9000! Team: Main: Ghost Commander Level: 1138 Class: Berserker Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:36 pm	Re: Trqansference weapons. nom vampires ? Biggee is referring to the fact theres a number of FC's that don't use slaves, but the radx bonus, and level up/pvp/dg just fine. A shm without slaves without a zerk/sniper/gunner is 99% a dead shm in a combat scene. _________________ Axis Industries
Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:25 am

yugioh124 Team: Main: yugioh Level: 1854 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:17 am Location: Classified	Re: Trqansference weapons. nom vampires ? Battlecruiser23 wrote: Biggee is referring to the fact theres a number of FC's that don't use slaves, but the radx bonus, and level up/pvp/dg just fine. A shm without slaves without a zerk/sniper/gunner is 99% a dead shm in a combat scene. What possible reason could you have for not using slaves as FC? Even though FC gets a +200% rad damage bonus, pretty much every combat class gets more than +200% damage overall from class skills, which would also apply to rad. Even if, for whatever reason, you wanted a rad damage-centric FC, it would make no sense at all to let your slave slots go to waste. _________________ Dorin Nube wrote: Nipples aren't the only danger here.
Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:45 am

Blue Dwarf Content Dev Team: Main: Blue Dwarf Level: 61 Class: None Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:39 pm	Re: Trqansference weapons. nom vampires ? It don't work, some code changes are going to be needed before any of these kinds of weapons can be added. I'm not so sure if it's such a good idea though, because of what it is. =/ _________________ "They've taken Mr. Rimmer. Sir, they've taken Mr. Rimmer!" "Quick, lets get out of here before they bring him back!" Support
Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:43 pm

The Salty One Team: Main: Eurus Level: 2330 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:27 pm	Re: Trqansference weapons. nom vampires ? Blue Dwarf wrote: Transference Power is just +damage but for only transference damage. Transference efficiency I think would work against you in such a situation. Transference resistance would work against you for this too. I might make one (locally) to see what it's like. I doubt this. Healing another shm has a positive effect. Therefore efficiency (etc) would not hinder your efforts. _________________ Space for rent!
Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:24 pm

anilv Member Team: Main: enkelin Level: 3002 Class: Speed Demon Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:28 pm	Re: Trqansference weapons. nom vampires ? Trans resist and trans efficiency both reduce the amount of self damage you take by a percent, even if that self damage were negative. _________________ (DefQon1) use a Rhino reconstruotereatarerer - (Pasta) I need to figure out how to get rid of this UrQa Suqqa Ukuk (Bluenoser) Put your finger in your mouth and gag reflex should do the rest
Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:33 pm

SimonV2 Team: Main: Si's_Yes_Man Level: 2266 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:27 pm	Re: Trqansference weapons. nom vampires ? there is a hurty trans in game already.... the one that kaylee grand uses. Engineer Chain Destruction MK I or something. _________________ My User Page Join SS!
Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:28 pm

yugioh124 Team: Main: yugioh Level: 1854 Class: Fleet Commander Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:17 am Location: Classified	Re: Trqansference weapons. nom vampires ? SimonV2 wrote: there is a hurty trans in game already.... the one that kaylee grand uses. Engineer Chain Destruction MK I or something. There's also an admin weapon that's positive trans damage, I've seen it used in colo. Xanthic, maybe? _________________ Dorin Nube wrote: Nipples aren't the only danger here.
Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:55 pm

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