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Bastamental
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Level: 1836 Class:
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Argeiphontes Hermes
Argeiphontes Hermes VS Ares War Chariot Hull:400------------------------------Hull:400 Speed:100---------------------------Speed:120 Aug Slots: 4-------------------------Aug Slots: 4 Wep Slots:5-------------------------Wep Slots: 3 Weight:330000----------------------Weight:105000 Laser:60%---------------------------Laser:60% Energy:40%-------------------------Energy:60% Heat:60%----------------------------Heat:60% Phys:20%----------------------------Phys:40% Rad:60%-----------------------------Rad:60% Surg:60%----------------------------Surg:60% Mining:65%---------------------------Mining:75% Trans Vurn:-10%---------------------Trans Vurn: 0% Visibility:? ---------------------------Visibility:15 Reflectivity:64%-----------------------Reflectivity: 110%
Improves:-----------------------------Improves: Turning 10%--------------------------Damage +25%, Damage +20%------------------------Crit Hit Percentage +15% Thrust +25% Visibility -5% Critical Hit Percentage 10% Critical Hit Strength 10%
What you lose with a hermes ship 20 speed, 20% phys, 20% energy, 10% mining, +3x the weight, 5% crit rate, 5% damage
Vs.
What you lose with an awc 2 wep slots, 10% crit str , 25% thrust, 10% turning, -5% vis, -10% trans vurn and some vis/reflectivity
I just don't understand why hermes has less resists than an awc, I think it should have more. Its slower, heavier and less tanky?
Basicly, I suggest that the resists get beefed to about 60-65%
Change the nanite wep [Adrenaline Syringe] into a tweak generator that adds critical hit rate and critical hit strength.
Add more range [Aura] to the drone, and perhaps make it mobile.
After this Argeiphontes Hermes should be a proper seer ship. As intended.
_________________ "Just wait till' I get my hermes..."
Jiraque wrote: It's a seer thing.
Paxx wrote: Use that yellow thingy on that zerk!
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playerboy345
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Level: 2035 Class:
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
You are retarded, the ship is fine. Only thing that might need a beef are the inbuilts but I haven't seen them in action so I can't say much about those.
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JeffL wrote: because we can and it looks really cool
The Voomy One wrote: Quote: Runescape, Allows you to change your name every 30 days. Runescape sucks so it doesnt count
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:02 am |
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ping101
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Level: 2169 Class:
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
My ship is proper !
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Battlecruiser23 wrote: seanla4350 wrote: So the moral of the story is: Attack SBP drones and you will be invited to the team and given a T21 ship and be the best. You have more sarcasm than him...this time.
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:07 am |
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Bastamental
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Level: 1836 Class:
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
ping101 wrote: My ship is proper ! Admit it, your dissapointed with the "Mystery epic seer ship"
_________________ "Just wait till' I get my hermes..."
Jiraque wrote: It's a seer thing.
Paxx wrote: Use that yellow thingy on that zerk!
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:08 am |
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ping101
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
At first, but then I was happy/glad.
+1 to AWC Seer
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Battlecruiser23 wrote: seanla4350 wrote: So the moral of the story is: Attack SBP drones and you will be invited to the team and given a T21 ship and be the best. You have more sarcasm than him...this time.
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:10 am |
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playerboy345
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
If he kept telling himself it's the most awesome ship ever and utterly brokena and see it's a perfectly balanced ship then yes, he would be dissapointed.
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JeffL wrote: because we can and it looks really cool
The Voomy One wrote: Quote: Runescape, Allows you to change your name every 30 days. Runescape sucks so it doesnt count
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:12 am |
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Bastamental
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
lol pb you cute, let the big boys talk about seers
_________________ "Just wait till' I get my hermes..."
Jiraque wrote: It's a seer thing.
Paxx wrote: Use that yellow thingy on that zerk!
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:13 am |
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aeljuga
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
Basta, i see you are trying to become good seer. But from my point of view you are not close to try to be a good seer. Seer is class which you dont understand fully. I see the stats of Argeiphontes Hermes and i can say its very powerfull ship. Use your intelect and try to get into mind of that ship and you will see it clearly. Comparing AWC and AH ship is pointless ans stupid. Maybe it needs some kind of beefs, but first get 1 AH ship and then you will have right to discuss about it!
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:15 am |
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playerboy345
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
I fully agree with Ahileus.
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JeffL wrote: because we can and it looks really cool
The Voomy One wrote: Quote: Runescape, Allows you to change your name every 30 days. Runescape sucks so it doesnt count
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:16 am |
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Bastamental
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
The last guy who challenged my seer knowledge/tactics learned something new
_________________ "Just wait till' I get my hermes..."
Jiraque wrote: It's a seer thing.
Paxx wrote: Use that yellow thingy on that zerk!
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:19 am |
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zhuang281
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
Did you perhaps mean:
"After this Argeiphontes Hermes should be a OP seer ship. As completely unintended."
As far as I can see, the ArgH is perfectly fine for Seers. Particularily due to its reflectivity and inbuilt bonuses. AWC is a SD ship, it gets the speed. AWC is frontal assault SD ship, it gets the tank. A beef to crit hit strength is much more important than a beef to crit hit %. This is because if you hit while unseen and from behind, you are bound to get the crit hit you are looking for. There is a "ceiling", if you will, on how much your crit hit % can be.
Comparing these two ships is like comparing a wattage to a prawn for a zerk. Whilst a prawn may be used by a zerk, it is intended for a completely different class.
Last edited by zhuang281 on Wed May 09, 2012 6:25 am, edited 3 times in total.
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playerboy345
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
zhuang281 wrote: Did you perhaps mean:
"After this Argeiphontes Hermes should be a OP seer ship. As completely unintended." Basically what I said, and who is person that learnt something from you basta? A level 200 seer perhaps?
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JeffL wrote: because we can and it looks really cool
The Voomy One wrote: Quote: Runescape, Allows you to change your name every 30 days. Runescape sucks so it doesnt count
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:22 am |
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Bastamental
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
My point is that it should be balanced more for a seers.
Nanites are usless, they were intended to attract seers to runs, since nobody wants them. Shouldn't be in an endgame ship.
Drone's range is awful, squishy, non mobile. It contradicts its own name.
_________________ "Just wait till' I get my hermes..."
Jiraque wrote: It's a seer thing.
Paxx wrote: Use that yellow thingy on that zerk!
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:27 am |
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Griffin
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
I'm just waiting for someone to be smart enough to make a stealth SD AHermes.
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Last edited by Griffin on Wed May 09, 2012 6:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:34 am |
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playerboy345
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Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
The ship is perfectly balanced.
The inbuilts are just extra's, and if they are indeed awful they will get beefed.
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JeffL wrote: because we can and it looks really cool
The Voomy One wrote: Quote: Runescape, Allows you to change your name every 30 days. Runescape sucks so it doesnt count
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:35 am |
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