i'm pro slaves, looking for a solid pvp set that works on high end panthers AND seer.

making 6 pvp alts and with pvp slaves and been asking around what works, not much from what people say. balance between needing that 500 MINIMUM speed to catch the big boys vs high radar and anything someone might consider dps worthy isn't working so far on paper.

best i got so far is seer slaves or sd slaves gremming using low vis setups with high rof or crit, sounds like a bust.

i heard jey likes AS's and does well enough with them, seers that crit to prevent warp is interesting. no one i've gotten on pm yet swears by them tho.

Ouch, Abbara got owned

Kanga

abbara, where are you?

yeh, was thinking i have an opportunity to try a specialized multiple slave deal, looks like it's sorta doable but paper thin shields in lieu of speed and low vis.

thx for the stinger setup suggestions, put another angle on what i was considering.

for seer slave, i have a crappy attempt at dps slave, but they aint exactly there yet.

as far as sd slaves goes, paper thin shield work if your slaves is as stealthy as a seer and moving 700spd xD. dont expect much dps out of them tho. at least, mine cant do much more than annoy, and kill stuff like bg and picks over a looong period XD.

tho i wouldnt try the conventional slave approach on sd. sd are for speed, and your better off using that to your advantage. combined with range, it can be a very efficient way for the slave to stay alive.

be unique! adv good marksman, qokuji, bellarmine!

Just came up with this but for SD

F Stinger-More DPS heavy
Gonzales(to keep up even remotely better)
Ares+(gotta live that ROF)
Athena+(Damage)

or stealthy

Gonzales(again to keep up with you a lil better)
Qokuji(sneaky sneaky)
Ares+ or Qokuji

or Grem pest

Gonzales
Ares+
Gonzales or Ares+(More speed or more grem)

As i said i just thought of these so they haven't been put to work so don't butcher me too bad for them.