EF sucks, they pose no pvp threat, steal their spawns at will!

Honestly what did you expect? SBP is a bunch of obnoxious arrogant kids who just happen to have allot of funding and players behind them.. they don't even want to resolve it the easy way they just go in guns blazing like idiots.

I would like to take this opportunity to point out that this is a Pvp game. In a pvp game, it is smart to not shit talk a member of one of the best teams in the game, then steal his spawn. You are just asking for it.

You know what the best solution for this situation would have been? For that player to have not even been invited to Star Wars. If a members flys your flag, he is representing your members and acting with the authority of your team. Same with SBP, we protect our own. We win as one. We lose as one.

From what I hear (I was not actually present in the DG level), Jam spoke in Gal chat, telling them of his intentions to kill Jwatt. Apparently Jam had been waiting in the DG for over an hour in queue.

The member from SW gave Jam some attitude, then killed the boss, scooped loot and left. I hear from 2 others that this is not the first time a member of SW has stolen a spawn.

Jam must have been in the process of killing Jwatt because apparently he was left with a lockout? Even if he was not shooting, the fact that the two parties had a conversation would suggest neither was afk.

screenshoots on their way

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this is why SBP attacked, honestly i dont see reason for a full assault on SW.

this was just an excuse for pvp

I don't know if it applies to this incident, but I know some snipers like to sit quietly and build analysis in JWatt for the full 10 minutes. I have never understood that practice since it's perfectly possible to start firing from the beginning and that saves a lot of time. It also makes it much less likely for your spawn to be stolen.

Currently it is still he said she said. What actually happened still remains to be determined. Trust me when I say we will find out and act accordingly.

Too me you have already acted without finding the truth

I trust my teammates.

Kinda rich coming from you.

I think there are two issues here:

1/ DG protocol: Snipers are stealthy. So it is not unusual to encounter them in a boss level. Since they are stealthy it is up to them to make themselves known as soon as as someone else warps in.
If you dont do this you have no claim to the DG.

If you do and the intruder does not leave, you screenie it and either kill him or have your team take it up. The screenie is essential because even teammates lie.

BTW I do not know why JW and all other ubers are not instanced that should be a top priority with admins

In the past snipers were rare and it was unusual to encounter them, now they are the premier class and this happens a lot.

2/ Team politics

When the AFK sniper complained most team leaders would have explained to him that you dont go AFK in a boss level and left it at that.

However it looks to me that SP/BP know they can what they like because there is no other large team to contest supremacy with them.
This is the continual problem smaller teams have.
Individuals in a biggest team get bored and attack a smaller weaker team just because they can.

There is little risk to themselves and the weaker team takes a big/massive hit.
I dont see a solution under the present PvP setup.