As some of you probably know, there is a war brewing on between SP and Pants. As usual in a war when EF is concerned, i tried to collect the facts in the middle of everyone assumptions of what was going on, and heres a tldr; version of what i could gather.

As to try to minimize the amount of possible lies and truth bending to a minimum, me and SP leadership agreed on posting the brief version of my research document on this whole matter.

The information presented in this document come from days of probing various members on both teams (and some on other teams), i tried to stay as subjective as possible, as to not favorise a side over the other.

Not everything in this document, is proved, most of what is not proved has a note accordingly. (not proved doesn't mean it didn't happen, but i do not consider indirect related testimony as proof. ex: some guy telling some other guy did this).

This document has been approved by leaderships from both Pants and Sp as being as accurate as it could be, although some things might be missing, its pretty much sums it up.

Screenshots proving a bunch of those facts are available on request, just pm me.
i believe there is a rule about posting slandering pm screenshot on forum and some of those screens aren't exactly good for everyone XD.

1 - slicer pvped hooch in james wattage and stole the kill. (no proof of that, and obviously. pants deny it)
2 - trev talked to pants member, and they were rude to him, so he said screw that lets pvp them. (no proof)
3 - some sp members lure flaming demon with a trade, then kill him....
4 - lajeah (flaming demon) call SP scammer (screenshots)
5 - shaft pm him to hear what happened
6 - fd tell shaft to pissoff.
7 - shaft war fd
8 - fd affirm that pants will kill sp
9 - shaft talked to sin and told him only fd would be attacked, other pants member would not.
10 - next day, fd get in a reaver with no gg/gear, and kill tradeslaves all around sp territory.
11 - shaft asked in pm to celtic. that he calm fd down, and celtic answered. "why dont you guys just end it and kill us off" (no screen of that one)
12 - SP members online mount a quick pvb attempt which resulted in a fail.
13 - pants warred sp back
14 - i asked sp to wait 2 days so that i could try to fix it.
15 - got confirmation that pants wont back down no matter what. EF are begining a vote to see if we join in or not.
16 - given them the rest of the 2 day period to give a chance for their nonsupporting members to pack and leave before stuff get blown up (and off course they will use that to fortify them self as well).


**** side notes ***
- pants galaxy have been agro way before this whole thing started, slowly building up hates
- sp have been pushing pants around for way before this started, unsettled hate, and taunting eventually brought that around. (no proof)
- some of the pantalones leadership plan on leaving pants and joining pirate teams (screenshots)
- draco155 whom is believed to be flaming demon alt, joined lazy town pirate (pirate team). although there is no solid proof of that, some pants members i talked to, think it is. and draco155 was in pants before the switch.
- 3 days into the reset, SP aided Legion in taking Asimov (Pants ada gal at the time).




My assistance was requested somewhere around point #12, unfortunately, it was already too late to stop it, i did try very hard to do so although ><.

i bet there would be peace if FD wasn't on pants to begin with.

this, and even more! on the next episode of star sodrama.
(please Jey, give us some damn sodrama <3)

Kool i like the detail version of what happen for once but dont you think SP+EF is overkill by a lot ? SP alone can deal with them and give them a small chance ?

yea and no. i mean. pantalones, as teamname at least, deserve a grand finale doesnt it ?
and the fact that the leadership already given up on their team. just encourage me to not let it drag too much. and end it swiftly.

I remember fd in The Happy Campers and draco is on the same acc as fd.

Damn, another war ?

if flaming demon paid and then got killed wouldnt that be a scam?

He was lured under the pretence of a trade, no exchange of items occured. Except for his Gear Glue that is.

seems like immaturity from both sides imo. dont think EF should be involved.

Don't see much immaturity from our side.

SP was insulted by someone, SP acted on that insult and that person and his team mates decided to try and deface the teams reputation due to our very reasonable reaction.

At which point if FD had been booted all this would almost certainly be resolved.

diplomacy with pants is hard at best.

took a lot of brokering from legion's side to strike a peace with pants, very hard dealing with the 'blow us up what do i care' attitude.

and yeh... FD involved in any way at all never helps.

both side share blames in here. as far as im concerned, SP didnt no better than Pants. but were still allied with sp, and well, fd has been an ass to more than just SP XD.

Red Faction is in unilateral aggression against flaming demon until he shows some maturity.