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Post Re: SPEED DEMON PvP TOURNAMENT!
I will submit 10b to the prize pool if all tweaking is banned from the competition and it is run in a best of three format.

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Post Re: SPEED DEMON PvP TOURNAMENT!
Heck, I wasn't bitching, just making a point that it would be cool to see "official" tournaments of organized pvping.

I'll still enter this tournament even if I get blasted in seconds. :mrgreen:

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Sun May 20, 2012 12:57 pm
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Post Re: SPEED DEMON PvP TOURNAMENT!
Go ahead and put me down, Pietro in Panther. This'll help me see what other SD's are using as their gear :P .


Sun May 20, 2012 1:16 pm
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Post Re: SPEED DEMON PvP TOURNAMENT!
Xanu wrote:
I will submit 10b to the prize pool if all tweaking is banned from the competition and it is run in a best of three format.


I'll also put up 10b under these conditions. It might be tricky to make sure that they're satisfied, however.

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Sun May 20, 2012 1:40 pm
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Post Re: SPEED DEMON PvP TOURNAMENT!
EwanB wrote:
I wont enter this. You cant pick a "best" SD through a 1v1 match.

You need to test the SD Vs Group. VS SD/sniper/MF/FC/gunner/Shm/anything.

The player that makes it though there the best IS the best.

1v1 SD proves really nothing since that player could just have a off day.

show me a real tournament els i wont even undock my AWC.


Each 1v1 "match" consists of three "rounds" (maybe more).

Being "best of three" means you have to kill someone twice to advance, flukes are less likely. We could make it best of 5, so you need three kills of the same person to win.

Also it's easier to class lock and see how it goes, we are looking at SD v SD here, it's arguably the most exciting to watch and easiest to organise (speed is helpful!) Maybe with success here we can have other class tournaments and maybe even some admin input.

Don't be scared of losing wex ;)

Xanu wrote:
I will submit 10b to the prize pool if all tweaking is banned from the competition and it is run in a best of three format.


That's cool, maybe we could do an entry fee as well to add to the prize pool?

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Enkelin we all know I win at that! But unfortunately due to exams and holidays, I cannot enter!


Wow the two dutch people I thought would be first to sign up are making excuses!! Don't tell me DoW is right.... we won't start matches until a week from now

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Sun May 20, 2012 4:59 pm
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Post Re: SPEED DEMON PvP TOURNAMENT!
Already knew you would call them excuses.

my point still stands. give me a proper tournament and il come.

And by what your saying..if i was scared of loosing why would i ask for more classes to fight? kinda makes u look foolish


Sun May 20, 2012 5:05 pm
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Post Re: SPEED DEMON PvP TOURNAMENT!
EwanB wrote:
Already knew you would call them excuses.

my point still stands. give me a proper tournament and il come.

And by what your saying..if i was scared of loosing why would i ask for more classes to fight? kinda makes u look foolish


This is a proper tournament? It's just SD vs SD, 1v1 pvp. You can't determine the best SD if you introduce other classes can you?! I'm all for a free-for-all PvP tournament, but i think the easiest to start with and see how it works is with Speed Demons.

Just sign up and kill people. Then if you win we can have a free-for-all tournament so you can beat on more people. If you lose, well you'll be used to it from Ajax :P

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Sun May 20, 2012 5:36 pm
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Post Re: SPEED DEMON PvP TOURNAMENT!
Wex means best SD by what you can kill. If I can kill any and all SD's, but fail horribly to any old vulture seer or izer gunner or engi pax, something is terribly wrong, since I'm running around in a T22 Plus ship, something that cost me, say, into the tens of trillions.

That doesn't make you good at being a SD.


Knowing the above, there is no way to accurately judge the best SD. Theres more than just 1v1 dueling ability. The best SD not only can duel very well, but assist in group pvp, solo pve, and group pve to be a major component in the group versions.

The two group versions don't the do SD much credit because not all SD's will be the critical part of the group. Normally the shm or engineer will be.



Which comes back to my suggestion for a tourney. Minimum of 16 entries needed. T19 to T21 only; gear limitation on point #7.

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1. Each ship counts as a set number of points, with both a point cap and a squadmember cap.

2. Single round elimination. Before each squad faces each other, but right before they will face each other, their setups will be made known to each other. Everything from shield to augs to tweaks.

3. Each fight has a time limit (would help if an admin made an in game timer), so can't hide as 10 seers to advance to next round.

4. Each Fight has a set max distance to the arena. Making an uninstanced Ares Arena would be ideal. Ships that exit area gets an invincible Brute Force set on them, which despawns after player dies.

5. Prize money is optional, though would help incentivize entries. Main prize would be some special item BP (whether this be a ship, energy, radar, whatever) from an admin with a build limit. The item (including ships) would be neurobound.

6. A single player can be designated as the flagship player, and can be ruled out for #2, so his setup won't be revealed.

7. Limitation of Gear. A certain line will be drawn for those using the absolute best gear won't ruin the fight. Oly+ ships, T3/NB Oly gear, Prawn/Kidd gear, Anti-Matter Driver, and Glue Sprayers would be excluded. More may be added if needed.

8. Only one shield monkey or support engineer allowed to be part of entry. Only that person can use healer weapons/drones. If done with drones, max of 2 charges available. Uses Colo setting of drones return to ship. Dead drones don't come back out. Only equipped drones count; unequipped drones disqualify players.


Sun May 20, 2012 6:00 pm
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Post Re: SPEED DEMON PvP TOURNAMENT!
See that's all very well, but it makes it too complex. Just keep it simple, and let's see who the best dogfighting SDs are.

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Post Re: SPEED DEMON PvP TOURNAMENT!
Hey, I didn't sign up! But I'm willing to play along as long as people aren't tweaking a lot. I think we should do best of 5 matches however, with the likely low turnout.

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Sun May 20, 2012 6:25 pm
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Post Re: SPEED DEMON PvP TOURNAMENT!
Seer tournament? Wait 7 days

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add me

Bizman - AWC
hmm might be in need of some better gear...

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This is my actual account for pietro. ocarinist is my alt.

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Post Re: SPEED DEMON PvP TOURNAMENT!
Max235 wrote:
2. Single round elimination. Before each squad faces each other, but right before they will face each other, their setups will be made known to each other. Everything from shield to augs to tweaks.


In other words Max want's all the secret setups <3


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why would people have to share their aug setups? all that would do is make everyone in game copy the setup of the winner

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