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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
And a game management that clearly can't apologize for previous mistakes they did and point at the player base for being responsible when it is pretty clearly the mistakes that the administration caused that is the issue here.


Wed May 02, 2012 4:37 am
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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
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And a game management that clearly can't apologize for previous mistakes they did and point at the player base for being responsible when it is pretty clearly the mistakes that the administration caused that is the issue here.


Pretty much. If this shit continues, expect to see Star Sonata disappearing.

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Wed May 02, 2012 4:39 am
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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
This situation is like this
A rich person yells out 5 bank accounts details with millions in it and everyone around Tries to get the money The people who fail report this to the police * admins* and people who get the money get Raped*

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Wed May 02, 2012 4:39 am
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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
Yeah...i myself got like 200 lvls off KKK(would have been more but..lvl+me=a no)

i wouldnt mind if my lvls would be turned back mainly cause i hardly use -wex-

But..if admins are going to roll back the lvl 3.5k+s to their original lvls..

id say you are a bunch of idiots for not rolling back the ppl below lvl 2k or w/e retarded lvl you decided ppl are on so they wont get rolled back..

lvl 2.5k+ means nothing.. lvls below that do

Admins brainpower showed itself yet again.


Wed May 02, 2012 4:40 am
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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
blake1995 wrote:
This situation is like this
A rich person yells out 5 bank accounts details with millions in it and everyone around Tries to get the money The people who fail report this to the police * admins* and people who get the money get Raped*


That pretty much sums it up, only we have said this so many times, Level 2500 to 3500, the difference is mediocre.

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Wed May 02, 2012 4:41 am
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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
Altho..KKK wasnt an instance..so you actualy had to either pvp your way in..or just be lucky since quite a few ppl knew about it..


Wed May 02, 2012 4:44 am
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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
You guys are bordering on trolling here, you know. First off, I hardly play, so your insistence that I'm jealous is nothing short of hilarious. The 'race to the top' is perfectly legit, but you complaining because you figured out a way to level at a rate exponentially faster than the people who did it the long way, and then had your cheating taken away, is even more hilarious.

Should everyone who leveled quickly via this method have those levels taken away? Sure, that would be equal, but the fact that it has to be done manually means that insisting on that is unfair to the volunteers that would have to actually do it. Furthermore, records going back as far as the old KKK exploiting very likely either no longer exist, or would take hours of effort to locate, tracing back to the volunteers that would need to actually do that work.

The end of it is this; you exploited. You got caught. And your unfair gains have been taken away. Contest any of those points and I will be happy to argue with you until the cows come home. But cancelling your subs because you're not allowed to exploit is, again, nothing short of hilarious. I hope that at some point you will realize this.

But I'm tired now. Good night.

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Wed May 02, 2012 5:04 am
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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
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You guys are bordering on trolling here, you know. First off, I hardly play, so your insistence that I'm jealous is nothing short of hilarious. The 'race to the top' is perfectly legit, but you complaining because you figured out a way to level at a rate exponentially faster than the people who did it the long way, and then had your cheating taken away, is even more hilarious.

Should everyone who leveled quickly via this method have those levels taken away? Sure, that would be equal, but the fact that it has to be done manually means that insisting on that is unfair to the volunteers that would have to actually do it.

The end of it is this; you exploited. You got caught. And your unfair gains have been taken away. Contest any of those points and I will be happy to argue with you until the cows come home.



In other words only lvl ur alts to 2k next time understand?

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Wed May 02, 2012 5:05 am
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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
If you had chosen to do so, rather than violate the leaderboard so profusely, then hey, you probably could have gotten away with it. But a character getting to level 2000 is a fairly commonplace thing; a character getting to 3000+ is MUCH more rare.

If you cannot see the difference between the two, I really don't know what to say to you.

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Wed May 02, 2012 5:08 am
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If you had chosen to do so, rather than violate the leaderboard so profusely, then hey, you probably could have gotten away with it. But a character getting to level 2000 is a fairly commonplace thing; a character getting to 3000+ is MUCH more rare.

If you cannot see the difference between the two, I really don't know what to say to you.


Be legit like me and get 70 xp per mf reaver while lvling an alt WWWWWWWOOOOW MF REAVERS

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Wed May 02, 2012 5:09 am
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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
No it would not be equal at all, do you not read a single thing we have said? about 3 or so years ago, Bizman, Helro, JEDI and some other ppl powerlevelled in KKK on the guards, and nothing happened to them. So why should we?

The difference between level 2500 and 3500 isn't even explainable.

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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
Cyg..it is unfair to those who have to do it manualy..but its unfair if ppl get their lvls removed..and some dont..when obv the lower lvls are missing alot of content due to lvling this quick.

And if you are saying that they deserve to get their lvls removed then i can say bullshit.

since the once that exploited KKK still got their lvls and DIE is still in top 15..and had a huge advantage out off it.

so if admins want to be fair they have to treat every issue the same.

or atleast start doing that from now on and ATLEAST apologise for the failure in the past. even if the devs who decided on the KKK thing arnt even here anymore..SS carries the responsebility..new dev or old dev.


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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
Meh once again I find myself agreeing with Thermal.

One point you peepz left out though is the trading skills, at lvl 3k you can max em out and those do make a huge difference.

There are also numerous other instances about lvling that was considered broke. I got approx 3000 lvls total from copper before it was nerfed, got some 150 lvls in KKK I did it after kickout got introduced so it kinda sucked then, Bizzy stayed in there for weeks lol.

And we still got issues with the lvling tithe from afk people, I do think that directors and councillers should get something since they do spend several hours a week doing nothing but solve the BS that morons on various teams cause. But we need the server to kick inactives set it to 30 min or so.

When it comes to Hermes rams this is nothing new and several people have lvled in there long before Daedlus and Mura found out. The difference is that those people where not stup... ehh eager enough to lvl so much it shoved on the leader boards.


Point being that this was not an afk lvling that happened on its own its comparable to the old copper lvling rather than KKK, Loads of nasty ais and you need to be active to survive and lvl off. If this was just a place where you could sit and scratch yer crotch while lvling then it would be broke but it remindend me of when I was lvl 500ish in a Izer lvling in copper 7 with Abdum many many years ago.

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Post Re: RE: Hermes Leveling Exploit Rollback
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Most people are just jealous because they didn't know. Infact let me tell you this right now so that you don't get the wrong fucking idea. Every single fucking person who has called me and Thermal an exploiter, have asked me atleast 8 or more times the day before it got closed, how did you get EXP and how did you level? One person even threatened to get me banned if I didn't tell them (Blackmail). Which is the biggest form of Hypocrisy I have ever seen in my entire life.



I knew about it but I did not abuse it. So I am allowed to say that it was stupid to abuse it :P Even though admins did not point it out as a bug, there is no way people could have mistaken it as something intentional.

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But..if admins are going to roll back the lvl 3.5k+s to their original lvls..

id say you are a bunch of idiots for not rolling back the ppl below lvl 2k or w/e retarded lvl you decided ppl are on so they wont get rolled back..

lvl 2.5k+ means nothing.. lvls below that do


Agreed.

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No it would not be equal at all, do you not read a single thing we have said? about 3 or so years ago, Bizman, Helro, JEDI and some other ppl powerlevelled in KKK on the guards, and nothing happened to them. So why should we?

The difference between level 2500 and 3500 isn't even explainable.


You should be punished because you exploited. It has nothing to do with what people did ages ago. Employing the very overused saying: Two wrongs do not make a right, but two rights make a u-turn


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Cyg..it is unfair to those who have to do it manualy..but its unfair if ppl get their lvls removed..and some dont..when obv the lower lvls are missing alot of content due to lvling this quick.

And if you are saying that they deserve to get their lvls removed then i can say bullshit.

since the once that exploited KKK still got their lvls and DIE is still in top 15..and had a huge advantage out off it.

so if admins want to be fair they have to treat every issue the same.

or atleast start doing that from now on and ATLEAST apologise for the failure in the past. even if the devs who decided on the KKK thing arnt even here anymore..SS carries the responsebility..new dev or old dev.




Look on bright side if u used the sp maybe they didn't take the skills <3
otherwise knowing these admins u'd be back to piloting 0 lol

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