I'm at the point to where I don't need the loot off these ubers I can solo. I try to go on as many uber runs with teammates as I can because it's more fun to be with my teammates (I guess thats why I'm on a team?).

All my loot gets put towards my team. I think it's just that there are greedy fucks out there.

But I do the vast majority of my runs alone simply because most of my team isn't at this point (Ever tried Jwatt with wards and rosy's?), and the fact that when I tend to do ubers, my team is normally asleep or at work (college lets off at 12noon; people work until 5pm/6pm)


That being said, I worked my ass off for my PWave. I gathered and paid for everything myself. I finally feel free of the shackles that I had with my juju (now it makes a good dg storage ship). I don't want to ever (on this char) feel noobish in MS where I have to fight his regen and if crit doesnt chance the way I want it to, take 50mins to kill MS.

While this is meant to nerf low end snipers, I know for a fact the admins won't *just* nerf low end snipers. In fact, I know that people can keep grudges for a long time. Perhaps Jeff_L still doesn't like getting killed by a DS sniper? THAT nerf made all the snipers change class.

I think that if it comes down to it, he would do it again. And we'll ahve to wait for Client 3 before sniper can truly dps things. And besides all the angry customers, we'll have a surge in Gunner, Seer, and SD. Which will just make Spatzz rant about Gunners being OP monsters.

I see that atm Sniper is a realy strong class but i think we dont complain in this thread about class issues anymore. we complain about sniper class because some people think that it will change something when they would get nerfed but it will nothing happen. i think the sniper problem is just a small part in the picture.

the problem i see is that with the level CAP, that i like,
and the lag of new player that join . Who will always go to bigger teams that just have more credits to offer. you will always have the feeling in small teams thats is realy hard to get into runs with sniper or without sniper. we have to open the player pool to see which people would like to go to runs with level and class? maybe a station that works at conection system like a black board.

We have to adress problems and search for them why people just dont group up and do Dgs together maybe lag of comunication system ?
there are so many things that could be more of the problem than the sniper class. Maybe you just change drop and loot that with more people you get a higher drop rate.

I dont play this game for long but its always the people you play with that make a game fun

sry for my lag in english

I'm not going to read whole thread, but I will say that sniper class will not be changed at all. Snipers can solo a lot ubers that most classes can't solo, and let it be, they give us on the market loads of items we normally can't get on our own.

Pvping as sniper also isn't that easy and pirating as sniper would be hard. Snipers are good mostly in colo where people just sit still and allow sniper to poke them. And seer can easily wtfpwn sniper. Kthxbai.

1. Sniper PVP is easy. I'm shit and I can do it well against most normal players

2. Why is pirating hard as sniper?

3. Whilst a seer can easily "wtfpwn" sniper, sniper can easily "wtfpwn" everything else.

Sniper who wishes to survive can't just pop out and start shooting like normal classes do, sniper has weak shields and resist so even a zerk with shm will be really hard to kill for most snipers, and think about heph machine engis which are fucking seriously hard to kill.

Pirating on sniper isnt also easy because sniper is fucking slow (at least for me 96 speed with t20 bana radar*** isnt really much) and most classes will just run away from pirating sniper.

Slow down here tiger. You are making some ridiculous claims at the moment!

Sniper rapes kids in PvP with the only semi counter being a Seer which the Sniper still has an amazing shot against.

As for pirating, I would say it is the best or second best class next to SD. You are low vis with amazing DPS and range, what more could a pirate ask for. From your point of view you make it sound like the sniper is sitting 500 from his target, a stupid one might and hey, if he has a ZHT he would still prob beat the ShM and Zerk ^^

Lets address this again in dot points.

1. Snipers do not need high shields, they just utilise their 2.5k+ range. I also do not wish to "think about" heph machine engis until they are in widepsread usage. Unless of course you want me to pull the prawn sniper out of the bag.

2. Most classes would run away if they are losing yes, if they can. Oops..they can't..phys crits. Sniper just keeps fighting at range till person wishes to run. Sniper can then close distance and nail them with PZHT's

Even a seer is dead if the seer is spottied.

A sniper is the DPS class and should be the DPS class, I agree. Why is it then, also the class with the most range and the class that is the second stealthiest.

Most seers cannot kill snipers easily, courtesy of the spotty beam.

You can keep saying your point for all it matters. Why should more content be implemented so that there is at least something in the game that Snipers cannot easily solo? In that case, why was not every other classes not beefed when engis needed a nerf? Why don't they implement bigger exploits so that the smaller ones no longer matter?

If you wish to go by the real world definition of snipers, then they don't do a very large amount of "DPS" over time. So lets not get into semantics over what a sniper "should" be. Instead lets talk about what is overpowered about it.

Whilst nobody can deny much content is easy, the sniper still has the easiest time of it.

You say that engi's needed a nerf but snipers do not right now. Tell me why. You are basically going in circles right now, using your argument in contention to support the same argument in contention.

It's a sniping cruiser, not a RL sniper. We play with 5 inch(127mm) caliber guns and bigger, not some dinky rifle.


For the seer thing, spotty beams need to be removed from use on slaves. And seers may need a -tracking effect upon a class locked weapon or two.


As for content, I think some content should be updated.

If Sniper can solo RP, code it to where the warship sits inside the belt, and make the belt respawn at a ridiculous rate if any asteroids are destroyed. Also maybe give it a pass regen bonus (dont shoot it for a while, +100% RPS).


Stuff like that. But I do not like the idea of making an uber like Marco have an anti-sniper weapon to pelt Absentis/Quad/PWave snipers with when it'd make actual Izer/Abscon/Snowflake snipers unable to kill him without an 8 man squad.

This game is totally unbalanced and will die soon...