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Team:  Main: Mew Meeow Level: 1244 Class: Shield Monkey Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:55 pm |
 Re: BerserkersFallen- wrote: seanla4350 wrote: If you don't want the speed penalty, then don't get the Impervious Armor skill? Most berserker ships have high enough resistances already without the skill. true true but there is still that small problem ... of either reaching or withstanding a long range barrage of enemy fire... here's an example... in my zerking times. i was able to kill many many many ai with ease. however one of the most simple of all mini ubbers. "Speedy Gonzalaz" due to his increased speed and excelletn maneuverablity. my only choice was using long range trackign weapons. without that resistance i would have died rather quickly.. nto complaining exactly... im ok over all with the zerker's current ability but .. ahh and woa the frustration of dying to a EF layer mini ubber... when being able to solo a forgone swarm... forgones use close range combat easy pickings form ost any zerker that is used to peril.. however if u go against a logn ranged ai. say speedy or Bellarmine or BFH you notice a problem.. sure u can resist there damage n such and still pump out a easy 200 k + amount of dps but... what is it worth when u cant see or reach them ? sure that can be fixed with augs and better radar n such. but one is already sacraficing that room for bank energy and shield rof and so on... Try doing Gonz on a Seer, you need to 1 hit it or your screwed becouse you only got low range wep, no tracking, no shields, nothing exept for high damage per hit if you strike from behind, if you dont kill it in 1 hit you ider get non stop fired at from it or you warp out, wait for it to fully regenerate and try again _________________ Aurora Ex Machina wrote: Nerf time. playerboy345 wrote: Swift.Kill wrote: u havent tryed 5 Ada Rage BS Zerker yet WHIT LINCIN  u havent tryed 5 STFU WITH YOUR BS WHIT GTFO |
| Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:12 am |
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Member  Team:  Main: Savak Level: 20 Class: None Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:58 am |
Re: Berserkers seanla4350 wrote: If you don't want the speed penalty, then don't get the Impervious Armor skill? Most berserker ships have high enough resistances already without the skill. I wonder how would zerk work if we got rid of travelling fields and turn Impervious armor to speed scaled skill? _________________ Original Sybir /GodSteel My custom shader |
| Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:13 am |
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Member  Team:  Main: Kangaroo_blob Level: 3102 Class: Berserker Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:37 pm Location: Married to: CSE |
Re: Berserkers syberian wrote: seanla4350 wrote: If you don't want the speed penalty, then don't get the Impervious Armor skill? Most berserker ships have high enough resistances already without the skill. I wonder how would zerk work if we got rid of travelling fields and turn Impervious armor to speed scaled skill? Add host to the skill as well if that's the case! More resists and host the slower you are? Me likely! Kanga _________________   Illegitimi Non Carborundum |
| Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:17 am |
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 Team: Main: 1-800-USE_THE_FORCE! Level: 2907 Class: Berserker Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:36 pm |
Re: Berserkers 2 caz aod lion holds hostility pretty well but i do have some evil gear. Still some snipers take aggro so a + hostility bonus would be nice, then i could focus a little more on dps. With the current setup my dps is horrible!
And there's plenty of solo zerk setups, just consider using a vulture Aug and a shield with decent regain or carry some sss. |
| Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:10 pm |
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 Team:  Main: Predator Lord Level: 1814 Class: Berserker Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 4:41 pm |
Re: Berserkers or u can do 2 CaZ wattage and hold aggro without evil gear
_________________ kanescreed wrote: Fires make it go ka-booooush instead of sawooush VaporiZe! |
| Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:20 pm |
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 Team: Main: Thermal Level: 3024 Class: Engineer Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:23 pm |
Re: Berserkers Predator1356 wrote: or u can do 2 CaZ wattage and hold aggro without evil gear You haven't really payed attention to the maths I showed at all. 2 CaZ Wattage in a Wattage with no *Evil gear will not hold the hostility from high end snipers. I do not consider your Absentis sniper to be high end. |
| Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:44 pm |
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 Team: Main: __ Level: 2482 Class: Berserker Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:38 pm |
Re: Berserkers Yeah, it's very nearly impossible for anything to keep agro from my sniper.
_________________ http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1408128/Demiser_of_D landswimmer wrote: ALL HAIL CYG THE MESSIAH! |
| Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:07 am |
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 Team: Main: Spatzz Level: 2402 Class: Engineer Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:40 am |
Re: Berserkers Cygnus wrote: Yeah, it's very nearly impossible for anything to keep agro from my sniper. True fact. Might as well have made a crappier set-up, least the space bar could be held down then ^^. _________________ JeffL wrote: Come have sex with me in space, my lord |
| Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:11 am |
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Re: Berserkers newman233 wrote: I'm guessing this is the +host easter tweak? If so then I love it, all these easter tweaks look very handy. Kanga No, this is a permanent item. |
| Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:03 am |
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Member  Team:  Main: Aku'Qa Level: 2620 Class: Berserker Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:08 am |
Re: Berserkers seanla4350 wrote: Predator1356 wrote: or u can do 2 CaZ wattage and hold aggro without evil gear You haven't really payed attention to the maths I showed at all. 2 CaZ Wattage in a Wattage with no *Evil gear will not hold the hostility from high end snipers. I do not consider your Absentis sniper to be high end. BITCH GOT TOLD! _________________ My Characters (to avoid confusion): Xenophanes, Protagoras, Error Message, Aku'Qa and Unfriendly |
| Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:30 am |
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Team: Main: Predator Lord Level: 1814 Class: Berserker Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 4:41 pm |
Re: Berserkers seanla4350 wrote: Predator1356 wrote: or u can do 2 CaZ wattage and hold aggro without evil gear You haven't really payed attention to the maths I showed at all. 2 CaZ Wattage in a Wattage with no *Evil gear will not hold the hostility from high end snipers. I do not consider your Absentis sniper to be high end. well do u consider pos wave sniper sdo be high end? cause ive played with a few of those also and stil no problems. _________________ kanescreed wrote: Fires make it go ka-booooush instead of sawooush VaporiZe! |
| Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:46 pm |
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Team: Main: Spatzz Level: 2402 Class: Engineer Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:40 am |
Re: Berserkers Predator1356 wrote: seanla4350 wrote: Predator1356 wrote: or u can do 2 CaZ wattage and hold aggro without evil gear You haven't really payed attention to the maths I showed at all. 2 CaZ Wattage in a Wattage with no *Evil gear will not hold the hostility from high end snipers. I do not consider your Absentis sniper to be high end. well do u consider pos wave sniper sdo be high end? cause ive played with a few of those also and stil no problems. All depends how they aug. A PWave sniper can do 111k base DPS without any mods which is enough to steal aggro given time. That being said, 2 CaZ is no where near enough aggro for any good sniper. _________________ JeffL wrote: Come have sex with me in space, my lord |
| Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:48 pm |
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Team: Main: Thermal Level: 3024 Class: Engineer Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:23 pm |
Re: Berserkers Predator1356 wrote: seanla4350 wrote: Predator1356 wrote: or u can do 2 CaZ wattage and hold aggro without evil gear You haven't really payed attention to the maths I showed at all. 2 CaZ Wattage in a Wattage with no *Evil gear will not hold the hostility from high end snipers. I do not consider your Absentis sniper to be high end. well do u consider pos wave sniper sdo be high end? cause ive played with a few of those also and stil no problems. A Poseidon Wave sniper can not compare with a well geared Wattage sniper or Prawn sniper, which I consider way more high end and will put out a ton more DPS and take a ton more hostility. So no, I do not consider Poseidon Waves to be high end snipers for runs. |
| Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:58 pm |
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Team: Main: Predator Lord Level: 1814 Class: Berserker Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 4:41 pm |
Re: Berserkers ok fair point but if your playing with beefed up wattage and prawn snipers dont u think the devs wanted zerks to have to make some effort to be able to hold aggro?
_________________ kanescreed wrote: Fires make it go ka-booooush instead of sawooush VaporiZe! |
| Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:12 pm |
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Team: Main: Spatzz Level: 2402 Class: Engineer Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:40 am |
Re: Berserkers The point Thermal is making is that you need stupidly ridiculously well modded items (tons of small t17+ weapons) in order to achieve this. This limits "high end" Zerks to a very small amount of people considering how few of these items there are in game. No one should be forced to spend hundreds of billions on modded gear just to fulfill their roll, not even to excell.
_________________ JeffL wrote: Come have sex with me in space, my lord |
| Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:17 pm |
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