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Post Re: Flaming Demon
Tickets are usually resolved :S

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Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:14 pm
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Post Re: Flaming Demon
seanla4350 wrote:
Llessur and goett, perhaps take a look at this:

http://www.starsonata.com/support/ticke ... resh=59571

That is a very interesting support ticket that might explain how some information actually can be given out to the player base.

Also, remember that support tickets are not private, so anyone with the Ticket ID is in power of revealing information.

Going by what was written in the ticket it wouldn't surprise me if people that were affected by flaming demon's scamming/account theft actually were given the information on his name change, since Jeff actually clearly states that so can be done if the administration decides to do so.

And yeah:

Bageese wrote:
Edit: Name changes are not to be used for the purposes of getting away with scams. If we feel that people are changing their name for the purpose of scamming, then we reserve the right to tell whatever players about that we want. In general, we're not really looking to do this, so this is more for egregious and obvious cases. - Jeff


Since Shadow has not engaged in any scamming. He had not :
" are changing their name for the purpose of scamming," then this is clearly outside this provision.

Also the context of Jeffs comment makes it clear that normally support tickets are confidential.
The protection from casual viewing is the by way of the confidential ID number, that is not a public document.

Consquently whoever revealed that information he is in breach of NZ law at least, and I suspect the US will have similar laws.

There are several other legal issues here but that would be off the immediate topic.

Getting back to the point Shadow has been a good team member of TFC, the total opposite of the pirate and scammer that FD was alleged to be.
It does not seem to to me that it can be the same person, but even if it was he has totally changed his ways and apparently changed his name to boot.
I think he deserves a second chance.


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Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:33 pm
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And dont act like its impossible to fake a web- page


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Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:35 pm
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HOLY SHIT PRETER I LOLLED SO HARD. <3

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Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:51 pm
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Post Re: Flaming Demon
IrishKnight; At first, you were right by saying that you were wrong. You do understand that you can type there because the ticket system just requires you to have the ID to access it, yes?

The original ticket was accepted, and TheVoomyOne approved the name change. If you can talk as TheVoomyOne on that ticket, feel free to prove me wrong.

Also, what you just did was take a screenshot of a webpage and then fake it. You didn't actually fake the webpage itself. Try again, please.

I honestly have no idea why you backtracked and made yourself look like a fool again.

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Tickets are usually resolved :S

Tickets are resolved if an admin sets them as such or a player reports them as closed. Neither happened here, which is why it said 'Waiting reply from staff'.

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Post Re: Flaming Demon
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And dont act like its impossible to fake a web- page


That's not what you said in the recent thread that got deleted because it blew out into some retarded argument over Nebraskan rabbits...
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midget wrestling? hahahha

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Post Re: Flaming Demon
assasinat3r wrote:
IrishKnight wrote:
And dont act like its impossible to fake a web- page


That's not what you said in the recent thread that got deleted because it blew out into some retarded argument over Nebraskan rabbits...
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XD holy shit i cant believe u made russ say that

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assasinat3r wrote:
IrishKnight wrote:
And dont act like its impossible to fake a web- page


That's not what you said in the recent thread that got deleted because it blew out into some retarded argument over Nebraskan rabbits...
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Irrefutable Evidence 4


hahahahahahahahahahahaha :lol: :lol:

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Post Re: Flaming Demon
assasinat3r wrote:
IrishKnight wrote:
And dont act like its impossible to fake a web- page


That's not what you said in the recent thread that got deleted because it blew out into some retarded argument over Nebraskan rabbits...
Irrefutable Evidence 1
Irrefutable Evidence 2
Irrefutable Evidence 3
Irrefutable Evidence 4

:shock: :lol:

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Post Re: Flaming Demon
IrishKnight wrote:
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT SOMETHING OUT: dont know what it means lol.

look at this now. (look at the bottom)
http://www.starsonata.com/support/ticke ... resh=96213


Since accessing a ticket does not require you to log on, anyone with the Support ID can post replies. This however, does not enable anyone to fake Voomy's response to FD's first post, nor can they fake the date of the post. So this proof is still real.
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seanla4350 wrote:
Llessur and goett, perhaps take a look at this:

http://www.starsonata.com/support/ticke ... resh=59571

That is a very interesting support ticket that might explain how some information actually can be given out to the player base.

Also, remember that support tickets are not private, so anyone with the Ticket ID is in power of revealing information.

Going by what was written in the ticket it wouldn't surprise me if people that were affected by flaming demon's scamming/account theft actually were given the information on his name change, since Jeff actually clearly states that so can be done if the administration decides to do so.

And yeah:

Bageese wrote:
Edit: Name changes are not to be used for the purposes of getting away with scams. If we feel that people are changing their name for the purpose of scamming, then we reserve the right to tell whatever players about that we want. In general, we're not really looking to do this, so this is more for egregious and obvious cases. - Jeff


Since Shadow has not engaged in any scamming. He had not :
" are changing their name for the purpose of scamming," then this is clearly outside this provision.

Also the context of Jeffs comment makes it clear that normally support tickets are confidential.
The protection from casual viewing is the by way of the confidential ID number, that is not a public document.

Consquently whoever revealed that information he is in breach of NZ law at least, and I suspect the US will have similar laws.

There are several other legal issues here but that would be off the immediate topic.

Getting back to the point Shadow has been a good team member of TFC, the total opposite of the pirate and scammer that FD was alleged to be.
It does not seem to to me that it can be the same person, but even if it was he has totally changed his ways and apparently changed his name to boot.
I think he deserves a second chance.


I like how you selectively quote the parts that help your argument. What about the other part saying "Name changes are not to be used for the purposes of getting away with scams." He did scam and pirate. He changed his name to get away from that. Of course he would act as a good member, he is trying to hide who he is remember? Either that or the account has changed hands. Either way, the kos would follow the account.

Even if he has totally changed his ways, he has been given 4th and 5th chances already but has squandered them all. How many chances do you plan on giving him?

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IrishKnight wrote:
And dont act like its impossible to fake a web- page


You did not edit a webpage. You edited a screeny of a webpage.


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Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:17 pm
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IrishKnight wrote:
And dont act like its impossible to fake a web- page


Dark Phantom wrote:
You did not edit a webpage. You edited a screeny of a webpage.


Nuh-uh

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Dark Phantom wrote:
You did not edit a webpage. You edited a screeny of a webpage.


whats to say u didnt do the same?

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Predator1356 wrote:
Dark Phantom wrote:
You did not edit a webpage. You edited a screeny of a webpage.


whats to say u didnt do the same?


The fact he gave a link to the web-page instead of to the screeny of the web-page.
So, if we follow the way he is thinking then he is correct that he edited a web page and *according to him* we edited a screeny not a web page.
:roll:
in reality, i edited the page and screenied it for you all to see that its possible.

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