Both of these ships are staple to the everday game play of most folks on SS. The App Ward is used as a travel ship with very nice hull and I still consider it to be one of my best investments. The DF is the go to transport when you don't feel like breaking out the SS.

This being said, I would love to see t21 versions of both of these items along with t21 Hera/Caly varients. Honestly, even if they were just upgraded versions with no real originality I could care less. Both ships and both augs work great so no real need to change the original design.

Now than, someone destroy my thread.

WTF!? Thread destruction successful.

I don't know when to use Than or Then. So I just choose on the spot.

Than = comparisons.
Then = everything else.

Personally, I'd like to see a new stealth-based delivery ship. I prefer juju over app ward for delivery, because even though it has less hull, the combination of resists and stealthiness means I can fly through deepest peri on AFK AP without worrying.

No to the ward, yes to the DF!

I refuse to support anything that would make me upgrade from my new 3 Hera+ Ward+ scoutships!

My ward+ has 17 vis and goes 700, its stealthy enough to not get killed, at the same time, fast enough

And also shield-monkey-boosted enough, lol. Us poor FCs don't get such huge delivery ship bonuses.

My Undead Baby Narwhal ship has awesome resists, 700 speed, pretty nice stealth, and great hull. And I am an Engineer, so it would be just possible for FCs to also use this ship with the same setup and make it go 700 speed.

A T21 Ward is not something I agree on, a T21 Freighter ship for hauling is something I agree on for sure.

It's really sad that its halloween-only content then, isn't it?

Aren't freighters usually spread out over a few techs?

I think exceptions can be made for techs past 20 since they are going to be coming so slowly. Would be like saying t22 won't include something better than an HM.

combat ships dont follow the same trend as freighters