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Post Cylon, Terminator or Stepford Wive?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zIuF5DcsbKU

Taking all bets!

Really though, this is one of the most realistic humanoid robots I've seen yet. What say ye people about yonder mechanical persons? ... I don't know why I felt like typing that in Faux-Old-English, but meh. >.>


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Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:50 pm
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Post Re: Cylon, Terminator or Stepford Wive?
Cyber Humans here we come...

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Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:34 pm
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Post Re: Cylon, Terminator or Stepford Wive?
Thus forthcoming, woulds't thine contraption be able to purvey in thine undertaking of jolly stickling?

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Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:06 pm
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Post Re: Cylon, Terminator or Stepford Wive?
Ye must first cross the uncanny valley.

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Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:41 pm
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Post Re: Cylon, Terminator or Stepford Wive?
it is interesting that people think robots will rise up, that robots will be the problem

humanoid, large robots are harmless... their numbers are miniscule. its the computer in your car, in your house, in your pocket, that you have to worry about

viruses approaching levels of complexity similar to living creatures are inevitable in a world where the average laptop has more computing power than the human brain, and any intelligent viruses created would inevitably be outfitted by their creators to access sensitive systems and take control of computers and robots, or to fight off other virus programs

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Post Re: Cylon, Terminator or Stepford Wive?
What will be the future of the internet then? An alternate universe?


Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:06 am
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Post Re: Cylon, Terminator or Stepford Wive?
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What will be the future of the internet then? An alternate universe?


Plug and play into your brain!

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Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:20 am
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Post Re: Cylon, Terminator or Stepford Wive?
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What will be the future of the internet then? An alternate universe?


it already is

right now it is simple, filled with simple programs and limited interfaces

once the technology improves, and we have direct connections wired to our brains, and faster computers, TRON will be the closest thing we have to an analogy for the real internet (many things are inconsistent, like the existence of 3d space in TRON, but it provides the best tool to assist human imagination in understanding what it would be like to operate in a virtual enviroment where the laws of physics are replaced with laws of information flow and computer algorithms)

"life" will have to be redefined... if viruses IRL, which only function when inside a host cell or body, can be considered alive, what defines computer viruses as "not alive"? they function within computers which operate like cells and are connected electronically, rather than spatially, they interact with their enviroment and they can be changed by their enviroment...

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what defines computer viruses as "not alive"?


They don't have cells, so they aren't alive.

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Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:46 pm
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landswimmer wrote:
what defines computer viruses as "not alive"?


They don't have cells, so they aren't alive.


IRL viruses dont have cells, but they are considered alive...

the new meaning may have to be things that are "living" are things that reproduce themselves, and evolve

the rate of diversification may be much much lower online than IRL, but programs will evolve over time in the same way animals do, through accumulated errors in their base code as they copy themselves

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Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:52 pm
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prove viruses are alive, if they don't have a cellular structure, then they aren't considered alive.

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brindlebull wrote:
prove viruses are alive, if they don't have a cellular structure, then they aren't considered alive.


why?

because they cannot operate outside cells?

humans cannot operate in space without spacesuits,

are we "not alive" since we rely on a host "suit" or a planet to live on with an atmosphere for our survival?

you need a defenition that makes logical sense without having to draw a line, a defenition with no exceptions.

i still think "the ability to replicate, and evolve over time" is what defines something as "living", since they are the things we associate most with life

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Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:08 pm
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i still think "the ability to replicate, and evolve over time" is what defines something as "living", since they are the things we associate most with life


You got some of the requirements correct, but you took out the others to suite your opinion. Living things also need to take in materials to help them grow, develop & reproduce. It needs to have cells, like I said. A living thing must also respond to stimuli. It requires several more things to be considered "Truly living". What you think makes something living is different from what I think apparently.

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the sum of the distinguishing phenomena of organisms, especially metabolism, growth, reproduction, and adaptation to environment.
Sometimes picking up a dictionary helps to stop adding in or taking out qualifiers for any specific word. But which dictionary to use? Erk.

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Post Re: Cylon, Terminator or Stepford Wive?
Viruses have been proven to be one of the few organisms to be both dead and alive. They can exist as one or the other but not both states at once and only acquire "life" when infecting a host and using the hosts cells and structures to further it's own reproduction.

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