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Author:  blacker2359 [ Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:42 am ]
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Aurora, can you add T17 and T20 launchers to gunner AI base so noobs like me can help test XD

Author:  Dorin Nube [ Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:31 am ]
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Damn. I may have to resub.

Author:  shawn_mccall [ Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:23 pm ]
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Aurora Ex Machina wrote:
Translation: don't nerf my ship!!!! PLEEEEEASE!!


I don't actually play anymore as military is too time consuming... It's just a simple fact that the ship is perdy useless for anything else. Oh, except looking pretty it does that well too.

Author:  Fallen- [ Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:43 pm ]
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you gave warp 0 and warp 1 ai some insanely fucking OP missiles...... rosfire kicks ass.... with 25 k DPM missiles WTF ? A LEVEL 200 IS DOING 25 K DAMAGE PER MISSILE ????????????????????????? WTF DID U GIVE THEM ? ANTIMATTER BOMBS >.<

NO NO BAD AURORA BAD !!! BAD U USE THE OTHER LEVELS NOT THE LOW LEVELS dont make me get the water sprayerthingy >.< Trololol

but srsly.... wtf ?

Author:  Max235 [ Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:53 pm ]
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shawn_mccall wrote:
Aurora Ex Machina wrote:
Translation: don't nerf my ship!!!! PLEEEEEASE!!


I don't actually play anymore as military is too time consuming... It's just a simple fact that the ship is perdy useless for anything else. Oh, except looking pretty it does that well too.


Doesn't Stabberz also have a Reaver+?

Author:  Aurora Ex Machina [ Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:36 pm ]
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Fallen- wrote:
you gave warp 0 and warp 1 ai some insanely fucking OP missiles...... rosfire kicks ass.... with 25 k DPM missiles WTF ? A LEVEL 200 IS DOING 25 K DAMAGE PER MISSILE ????????????????????????? WTF DID U GIVE THEM ? ANTIMATTER BOMBS >.<

NO NO BAD AURORA BAD !!! BAD U USE THE OTHER LEVELS NOT THE LOW LEVELS dont make me get the water sprayerthingy >.< Trololol

but srsly.... wtf ?



Sorry, please can you lay off the illegals before posting? It'd make my life easier.

Specifically, are you talking about live or test? The only Rosfire type with missiles are:

Reconditioned Big Roswell Trader 322 - 395

Code:
<!-- Tech 13 -->
<SHIP name="Big Roswell Trader">
<HULL>Reconditioned Big Roswell</HULL>
<!-- Weapons -->
<ITEM>Hunleyite</ITEM>
<ITEM>Hunleyite</ITEM>
<ITEM>Hole Driller</ITEM>
<ITEM>Hole Driller</ITEM>
<!-- Shield -->
<ITEM>Protein Strand Armor</ITEM>
<!-- Energy -->
<ITEM>Entropy Cascade</ITEM>
<!-- Engine -->
<ITEM>Striped Emphasis</ITEM>
<!-- Radar -->
<ITEM>Enseek Radar</ITEM>
<!-- Scoop -->
<ITEM>Electro Scoop</ITEM>
<!-- Items -->
<ITEM>Exterminator X</ITEM>
<ITEM>Laser Diffuser 2</ITEM>
<ITEM>Energy Diffuser 2</ITEM>
<ITEM>Super Quartz Charger</ITEM>
<ITEM>Hull Extension Ultra</ITEM>
<ITEM>Overloader Projection</ITEM>
<ITEM>Scimitar Class Launcher Mark III</ITEM>
<ITEM>Medium Armor Piercing Missile</ITEM>
<ITEM>Medium Armor Piercing Missile</ITEM>
<ITEM>Medium Armor Piercing Missile</ITEM>
<ITEM>Medium Armor Piercing Missile</ITEM>
<ITEM>Medium Armor Piercing Missile</ITEM>
<ITEM>Medium Armor Piercing Missile</ITEM>
<ITEM>Medium Armor Piercing Missile</ITEM>
<ITEM>Medium Armor Piercing Missile</ITEM>
<!-- Self Destructor: Usually no for these ships; designed to be pirated -->
<!-- Tweaks / Usuables -->
<ITEM>Blocker</ITEM>
<ITEM>Blocker</ITEM>
</SHIP>


The AI has no skill modifications. Their special items are drone deployers, not missiles. Note that the AI has neither an auto-generator nor crates, because you can cap them.

Note: medium AP missiles have not changed damage ~ they have been slightly increased in speed [+10], nothing more. On test, the launcher has been modded to +1 missile.

So ~ x8 medium AP missiles, in vollies of 3 or 2 = 3750 damage on test, 2500 on live currently, in 3 or 4 potential volleys. 12k total.

Hardly "25K DPM MISSILE", is it? The missiles have had their shields boosted on test, and they go speed 85. Which is slower than most players of level 160 - 200 (if we divide the AI level by 2, we get the optimal XP bonus for killing them).

Comparable AI levels are Scruples (355), Sawtooth X (360), Ruby Envoys (371) or Space Blue Gammas (420). SPGs have much higher shields and far greater DPS, btw.



Note: The Reconditioned Class of new AI are neutral, and will not attack players, and are single non-teamed AI. If you attack them to level off, expect some teeth to them. They're not designed to be easily levelled off, they're there for pirating / capping, and as such are inherently better protected than hostile meanies gangs.

Author:  Max235 [ Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:26 pm ]
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Ruby Envoys? =D

Author:  Visorak [ Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:54 pm ]
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While we are on the topic of ai and missiles, were infernoes looked at? They were doing massive amounts of damage with those 3x missiles and they are supposed to be the AI to cap for money D:

Author:  Fallen- [ Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:34 pm ]
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am i in test or sonata <,< the madnes THE MADNESS ILOVE IT AHAHAHhaaa derp no but seriously i was in my dark freighter as a zerker i get resisists and yet this thing pulverived me in a seconds time a f2p saw it

it was embarasing T,T

Author:  shawn_mccall [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:52 am ]
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Max235 wrote:
shawn_mccall wrote:
Aurora Ex Machina wrote:
Translation: don't nerf my ship!!!! PLEEEEEASE!!


I don't actually play anymore as military is too time consuming... It's just a simple fact that the ship is perdy useless for anything else. Oh, except looking pretty it does that well too.


Doesn't Stabberz also have a Reaver+?


I'm not sure, he told me the build never finished. I do know that there is at least one other built as I saw one somewhere but didn't bother to remember the name.

Author:  Camsy [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:56 am ]
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I have the bp but cba making it.

Author:  Griffin [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:49 am ]
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I tried to build it before but the uni reset was announced days later. Partially my fault.

I have another bp but my main concern atm is getting my PBF fully geared and making about 20-30b to have the R+ built and geared after that.

Author:  Aurora Ex Machina [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:05 pm ]
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Slightly pruned the number of missiles the reconditioned class of ships carry ~ so they'll do less damage.

This depressed me, so I fixed up + buffed Earth Force. Guess who uses MIRVs & other new missiles now? *muahahah*.


I caught someone mentioning that a certain small type of missile, either kinetic or AP, cost vastly more than other types. I looked over the factory production bps and so on all through the chain, and couldn't see it. (Although, yes, a type III small crate with 50 missiles cost > than a large AP type I with 10).

Author:  treygrey1 [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:19 pm ]
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Has everything been added back into Ordinance Command? If not, then when?

Author:  Griffin [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:00 pm ]
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Red Photon Plasma missiles require 20k nukes and 2 plasma crystals.

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