Star Sonata :: View topic - March 9th 2009

kunta wrote:

you guys need to beef items based on cost to make and commods to make as well
check all the bps and change stats of each, because they aren't looking worth it

biggee531 wrote:

A word on the new Pax Charge Panel... are you saying you are getting rid of the inbuilt OL altogether, or will this new panel take up the OL slot, and just be useful

will it take up a panel slot, all of the panel slots etc. etc. and.... will the Pax+ Panel be the same as the regular pax? Thanks for your time and dedication

pip8786 wrote:

I believe it will take up the overloader spot, and maybe 1 solar panel spot. The idea is that since you have it, you will not need an elec aug as much so you can use the aug slot for something else. Will make the pax more unique too.

I'll let others confirm that though.

biggee531 wrote:

The thing i like most about the re-balance is that all the would-be droners have pretty much bailed. Now DM is a class for those who have cash and are hardcore

urjuhh wrote:

if you put a OS6 on panther, and it'll do more dps than DS with same augs...
not a solution ofc... its a piss to power so much elec drain
but yarr, panther deserves some beef too

Author:	pip8786 [ Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
kunta wrote: you guys need to beef items based on cost to make and commods to make as well check all the bps and change stats of each, because they aren't looking worth it Items have a column for cost and rareness that affect the stats.

Author:	kunta [ Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
what about rareness of the commods to make them? look at the stats of rackhams bigger pulse, compare constract things to get with say a Ur Pulse T7 Also look at mercurian bulwark, compare constrast with PoT's things to get Mercurian Emission doesn't even deal damage anymore (laser); test it for yourself i was thinking about building some uber rad weps (neutron emitter), but hey my 5b+ may go to shit.

Author:	pip8786 [ Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
Construction difficulty is also factored in, though sometimes jeff doesn't know exactly how hard things are to build, so it may be that some of those aren't set exactly right. I know the rackhams is getting a boost soon though.

Author:	mike867 [ Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:30 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
As Trevor has said, i hope you will make sure that you test all the new mods before putting them into place with the New and Exciting Uni. Also what is the % of nerf that the engineer class = Drome Master has there been, as i have changed my setup again, and still to no real benefit or anything One thing i have notice myself, it that shields have taken big nerf, and the regen as well. What i have seen that it can be only a few shots from a AI or player, and your really nice uber type shield is gone, and you end up in stasis. Trying to find a repalcement shield to not get pwned as much is um not an easy task to find. As some have made noted before in other posts, the size in some weps is just way over the top, then it makes it useless to use in any ship. I look forward to see what is going to happen for this and everything else other players have asked upon. Hopefully it will be changed so that all will be able to enjoy he game without being hindered in some way, shape, or form. Good Job so far to the Dev team and the others. Regards, Mike.

Author:	BlackDragon [ Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
With that new OL on the DS, how exactly is the panther any better than DS? ~BD

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Author:	biggee531 [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:01 am ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
The thing i like most about the re-balance is that all the would-be droners have pretty much bailed. Now DM is a class for those who have cash and are hardcore which i'm fine with. Not only can my drones tank every non uber ai at this point, they have sustained DPS. That's without drone controllers, mind you. It just takes a little ingenuity on the players part, and anything can be made workable, or in my case, more useful than before. Now that i shut all the whiny DM's up, great job Admins on getting your stuff together The map thing definitely looks awesome. Best idea you've ever had actually, save drone ops augs and extractor limits. A word on the new Pax Charge Panel... are you saying you are getting rid of the inbuilt OL altogether, or will this new panel take up the OL slot, and just be useful will it take up a panel slot, all of the panel slots etc. etc. and.... will the Pax+ Panel be the same as the regular pax? Thanks for your time and dedication I've tried my hardest to support you guys in your decisions, and it seems to have paid off. Everyone is working over-time trying to get thinks hammered out. Even if "99%( Danger's asinine percentage)" of the player base doesn't like what you're doing, there's always that 1% that sticks by you and supports your decisions. Usually Again, thanks for all the hard work y'all have been doing, extra hours put in, etc. Keep it up. Biggee Edit: Don't judge me for excessive smileys. Or i'll pod you

Author:	pip8786 [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:09 am ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
biggee531 wrote: A word on the new Pax Charge Panel... are you saying you are getting rid of the inbuilt OL altogether, or will this new panel take up the OL slot, and just be useful will it take up a panel slot, all of the panel slots etc. etc. and.... will the Pax+ Panel be the same as the regular pax? Thanks for your time and dedication I believe it will take up the overloader spot, and maybe 1 solar panel spot. The idea is that since you have it, you will not need an elec aug as much so you can use the aug slot for something else. Will make the pax more unique too. I'll let others confirm that though.

Author:	biggee531 [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:17 am ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
pip8786 wrote: I believe it will take up the overloader spot, and maybe 1 solar panel spot. The idea is that since you have it, you will not need an elec aug as much so you can use the aug slot for something else. Will make the pax more unique too. I'll let others confirm that though. I'm fine with that, cool thanks

Author:	Yoko_Kurama [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:26 am ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
I don't know if this has been mentioned, ( I couldn't find anything about it anywhere. ) but damage augs don't seem to be dropping. I haven't gotten any in ~4 hours of lvling my FC alt, and a few other people have mentioned it to me. Not sure if this was intended because they are needed for drone controllers, but I think it needs to be looked at. EDIT: I've also taken to notice that when you kill an AI directly under or near you, you (and your slaves) don't get the negative radar bonus that usually accompanies doing that.

Author:	erman [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
70% damage on the silent death will make DSes better than panthers I bet with the right aug combo... Also, Overloaders are crazy big right now. 50-605 size on some of them is a little over the top. I would hope they could be scaled back to be 30-40 size max. I understand there is a new push to use breakable ones, but those of us who dont want to shouldn't be forced due to size constraints. -ERMAN

Author:	BlackDragon [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:59 am ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
I agree with ERMAN. I see all these huge bonuses for Vulture and DS, but what about panther? Supposedly the epitome of a LF, now its just a tad better, if at all? I think the DS OL change is a BAD choice with no reasoning behind it. Can you give the panther 50% in built damage to maybe compete now? ~BD

Author:	urjuhh [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:08 am ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
if you put a OS6 on panther, and it'll do more dps than DS with same augs... not a solution ofc... its a piss to power so much elec drain but yarr, panther deserves some beef too

Author:	Ivelios [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:56 am ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
biggee531 wrote: The thing i like most about the re-balance is that all the would-be droners have pretty much bailed. Now DM is a class for those who have cash and are hardcore QFT DM powah!

Author:	MagicSteve [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:23 am ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
My understanding of your sheild rebalancing. Sheilds Bank will be dependant on size Regen will be dependant on rarity Giga GnT: The only rarer sheilds are the Primal UZ sheilds yet its regen got cut by well over half. The bank on the other hand was increased meaning that anyone who uses it is forced to spend ages regenning their sheilds. Titan Sheild: Common as mud, has a fairly low regen so I will let you off on that. Size: 110. Bank 14000. That is 20% of the size of a Giga GnT but has only 4k less bank. Estimated costs: 8bil, ~50mil. Yet for me the Titan Sheild is far better, especially because mine is bank modded and comes very close to rivalling the Giga GnT. We want sheilds that regen. Please. And my final point, that I know will be shot down but I have to say it anyway, more hull on my ickle dread? Please? Oh yeah, AI seem to have far more sheilds than they used to, things I could kill in 2 shots take 6 now Sorry, tried to not make this come off as a rant.

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Author:	The Voomy One [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: March 9th 2009 - Dev Update 6
urjuhh wrote: if you put a OS6 on panther, and it'll do more dps than DS with same augs... not a solution ofc... its a piss to power so much elec drain but yarr, panther deserves some beef too Panther is a bit low on hull, maybe I can increase that a bit.