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Author:  Lt.Nelson [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:12 am ]
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Tyler_TDA wrote:
how about we go to the old pvp system. It was a bad system but it was better then the others

Actually, that's not a bad idea. At least while a better PvP system is being thought up.

Author:  TehGeneral [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:16 am ]
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YES for and depensive the following Reasons:

1) it would stop uber base noobs in teams

2) it would Make Pvp and team wars more Fair

3) Normal Playersw with no team would have their normal lvl

4) if its working ont he current system it eliminates team pvp issues where 2 team mates (800/300) cant attack an enemy (800) together

5) It would have to have FULL PVP On emp runs.

Author:  Solarius [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:32 am ]
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TehGeneral wrote:
YES for and depensive the following Reasons:

1) it would stop uber base noobs in teams

2) it would Make Pvp and team wars more Fair

3) Normal Playersw with no team would have their normal lvl

4) if its working ont he current system it eliminates team pvp issues where 2 team mates (800/300) cant attack an enemy (800) together

5) It would have to have FULL PVP On emp runs.

6) It would suit me bec I would pod more noobaz that are in a team with a high enough lvl so I can attack them and grief them.

Author:  Madferret [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:05 pm ]
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The only people who want change are the people who suddenly found they cant attack anyone at will IMO.

The low level uber bases isnt a problem so far as I see, as I haven't seen any greif from low level base alts, as yet..

~ferret

Author:  carlos the mackerel [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:19 pm ]
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Madferret wrote:
The only people who want change are the people who suddenly found they cant attack anyone at will IMO.

The low level uber bases isnt a problem so far as I see, as I haven't seen any greif from low level base alts, as yet..

~ferret


I want change, and I'm basically non-pvp...
there has been far too little pvp this uni, it's been dull. As it is galaxies are too stable, no slots are gonna open up for newer players during the course of the uni.

Author:  Madferret [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:25 pm ]
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Theres a lot of PvP, Imp Domination are at war with Santury for a start, and others too so I beleive.

The fact you dont hear about it is because instead of it being the usual whole team wiped out manouve Its fair PvP between people and bases of
the same level, people that wont really complain or post because its reasonably fair.

As I say I havent heard of any greifing like the old days where anyone could attack anyone they liked.

~ferret

Author:  Evan [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:00 pm ]
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yeah while I agree the current new system is fair its only fair within very thin bondaries. if I at level 800 want to move something in a behe I can't have my level 500 team mates help escort me. any level 800 player could come in and kill me and all they could do is heal or try to drag my ship. Likewise I cannot escort my lower level team mates and offer any real protection from attackers.

Evan

Author:  Bluejayek [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:16 pm ]
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yes. It may also break up the bigger teams into smaller teams with specific level ranges.

Author:  vap0r1 [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:19 pm ]
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the main thing that needs be worked on in the current system is the bases not defending each other. hell go back to the old system.

Author:  Madferret [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:37 pm ]
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I dont really see that as a huge problem, as you could get your level 800 friends to help you( I realise your talking low DF here btw). I know its not ideal but I cant see anyway they can make it fair for a level 300 to be up against a lvl 800, on a pvp basis, they can still provide you with a good amount of healing at level 300.

As someone suggested it does split the team into small groups of similar levels, and this really is how it should be and is in most games I've played, groups of players all coming together to level and build.

I personally cant see any other way of making it fair, unless you get rid of userbases altogether, or even PvB altogether....

~ferret

Author:  Bluejayek [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:04 pm ]
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Bases are the reason i play

Author:  mejunkie [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:36 pm ]
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Madferret wrote:
But I can safely say that if we had Highest Level = Team Level I'd have to leave my own team.

~ferret


Well what you are forgetting is that most players who can attack your team mates would be moved out of your range. My alts are lvl 390-410 (i lvled them all so they would protect each other (their bases)) with the exception of my fighter DM who is lvl 957 now. I believe Bizman is lvl 1300+, meaning the entire team of pantalones would be lvl 1300+ in PvP. None of us for instance would be able to attack you. :P

IMO this would promote team work immensely. It might mean there are a lot of teams, that pants can't attack, but at least if some of us are attacked the entire team can come to the rescue/violent bloodsheed.

Author:  JeffL [ Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:26 am ]
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We would probably still have the max PvP level cap, so the Pants and the other high teams would all be team level 850 or whatever it's currently set to -- I forget. So Pants would be able to attack all the major teams.

Author:  mejunkie [ Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:34 am ]
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JeffL wrote:
We would probably still have the max PvP level cap, so the Pants and the other high teams would all be team level 850 or whatever it's currently set to -- I forget. So Pants would be able to attack all the major teams.


ohh well


Besides, Ferret, you shouldn't be able to hide bases behind lvl 100 alts. At least not tech 18 mastery bases.

I voted yes, but then again it was my suggestion to begin with :P

Author:  Voom [ Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:37 am ]
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What should have been added a long time ago is that if someone shoots someone who is in a team then ALL of his team mates should be able to attack that player.
A team should always be able to defend their members and anything owned by the team.

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