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Author:  Devileye [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
landswimmer wrote:
Devileye wrote:
zhuang281 wrote:
I see nothing wrong with it. Do tell

While fighting BaG in colo, he was visible to my AWC from like 100 distance while pinging. So in general BaG was fairly easy to kill


so you're saying hes bad at games?

haha!
Author:  Bastamental [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
Im simply saying, if your going to make an oly ship for seers, please make it more attractive than a SD ship.

Meaning, beef/tweak/change the inbuilts.



Edit: Devil, 100 distance is fairly close. I can see him from 1k away, but im a seer. To others, he is fine. Just like snipers.

Edit: PB, I challenge your seer right now, accept and I will be on my way to colo. I will rape you, laugh, and continue to discredit your seer knowledge.
Author:  playerboy345 [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
Bastamental wrote:
Im simply saying, if your going to make an oly ship for seers, please make it more attractive than a SD ship.

Meaning, beef/tweak/change the inbuilts.

Edit: Devil, 100 distance is fairly close. I can see him from 1k away, but im a seer. To others, he is fine. Just like snipers.


The inbuilts are just extra's, you don't see the wattage inbuilt getting changed because it's annoying to get knocked around do you?
Author:  Devileye [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:03 am ]
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U just said it
Author:  Bastamental [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:04 am ]
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playerboy345 wrote:

The inbuilts are just extra's, you don't see the wattage inbuilt getting changed because it's annoying to get knocked around do you?


You stupid? There already planning on fixing that issue.
Author:  zhuang281 [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
Bastamental wrote:
Im simply saying, if your going to make an oly ship for seers, please make it more attractive than a SD ship.

Meaning, beef/tweak/change the inbuilts.

Edit: Devil, 100 distance is fairly close. I can see him from 1k away, but im a seer. To others, he is fine. Just like snipers.


Yes I agree with you, it should be made more attractive to Seers. But some statements on your OP, I did not agree with. An example of which would be your suggestion to beef it's resists because the AWC has more, which brought me to my statement that AWC was designed for a different class.
Author:  playerboy345 [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
Bastamental wrote:
Edit: PB, I challenge your seer right now, accept and I will be on my way to colo. I will rape you, laugh, and continue to discredit your seer knowledge.


I haven't logged in for about 2 weeks due to personal stuff.
Author:  Bastamental [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
Thats more understandable DP :)


Edit: PB, dump your boyfriend.
Author:  Devileye [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
Ye, I agree with DP.
Oh they maybe making drone a mobile one =P. Nothing else
Author:  playerboy345 [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
Bastamental wrote:
playerboy345 wrote:

The inbuilts are just extra's, you don't see the wattage inbuilt getting changed because it's annoying to get knocked around do you?


You stupid? There already planning on fixing that issue.


Do you have any proof? I remember a team mate making a support ticket about this, Blue Dwarf responded by saying it's one of the wattage's drawbacks, if you do not like it use a different ship. Sadly this ticket has been deleted so I can't link it in here.
Author:  Bastamental [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
Check under consideration subfile.
Author:  Devileye [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
link! :D
Author:  Bastamental [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
I saw it somewhere. Either way inbuilt weps are a waste of a slot.
Author:  playerboy345 [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
Could you provide a link? I have searched and couldn't find anything that confirms what you are claiming.
Author:  Max235 [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Argeiphontes Hermes
Kane was going to make his (the first in game) either a Stealth SD or a Speedy Sniper. He decided otherwise apparently.


One potential reason why even if they wanted to, won't turn the Nanite Weapon into a Tweak is...have you even seen a tweak affect your crit stats? There are no icons or stats atm without some coding for one or two people to benefit from.

Find me 10 Hermes ships in players' hands, then say "Oh we need this".


I know it sounds very negative, but the Zeus Throne had about 10 people before it was looked into, and Hermes is piss easy nowadays. The Hermes ship is as easy build as any of those ships and the Research module is a joke. Cloud Merc? Mine that for free with a BS and a couple slaves.



For the people who are not Basta. Basta like to play like a critty and slower stealth SD. The old Stealth SD Panthers, take that, reduce the speed, increase the crit chance, and now you have Basta's ideal Panther.

His setup is specific about Burst ROF. And he knows that he only needs a small crit chance bonus to seriously break that ship. Since it's a tweak, he'll expect to get about +25% crit chance and +30% crit strength.

The strength isn't the key part; the chance is. With one AoS, he has a 50% crit chance before ambush or the tweak. All he needs is about 75% while visible, and the dps will become extreme with a Midas.

Once about 75%, he can pile on the strength. Imagine a ship, with 75% chance, about 500% strength, and wailing on you with a Midas at a SD's RoF. This is a Death Striker. Now imagine what a Panther or Hermes can achieve.

THAT, is what Basta is trying to beef seer into.
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